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Charles Jones Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 09 July 2006 Posts: 517
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Posted: 06 July 2007 at 12:58am | IP Logged | 1
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I have a friend who watches Lost and claims that once certain storylines were "figured out" by the fans the writers had to go back and change everything to surprise them. I don't know if this is true but if it is are the creators so worried about their instincts that they have to change them because the fans get close? I thought part of the fun of reading a good mystery was putting the pieces together and maybe figuring it out, so what if some fans were close what about the creators original vision?
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Lars Johansson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 04 June 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 6113
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Posted: 06 July 2007 at 1:16am | IP Logged | 2
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Thank you Chad and Jeff for replying. Well, I don't know what questions you should ask, that up to you, but I think from a writers view you should stay hypnotized if it the character or story works. About espionage novels, Chad, I would say that you have to enter some weird Kingsley Amis/Robert Ludlum style false universe, since that is what people expect.
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Louis Bright-Raven Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 29 August 2006 Posts: 65
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Posted: 26 July 2007 at 5:04am | IP Logged | 3
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"I get all the stupidity I need delivered to me fresh daily right here. I don't need to import more from a computer." -- Dave Elyea, comics retailer and creator.
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Martin Redmond Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 June 2006 Posts: 3882
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Posted: 26 July 2007 at 6:05am | IP Logged | 4
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At least Lost is an original series Charles, it's not paint by number, insert stock cliche like Heroes. Though it's still kind of disapointing they killed 2 characters just because the fans demanded it. That's the kind of hardcore fan service I find annoying.
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Mike Bunge Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1335
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Posted: 26 July 2007 at 9:14am | IP Logged | 5
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One of the things that exacerbates the negative influence of the internet on comics in the small, cramped, nature of the industry and the audience. Someone brought up the example of the negativity on music sites, but the difference is that whatever crap you find on those sites has a limited impact on the overall music business because it's so freakin' big.
Because music CDs, books and other mainstream products sell to millions of consumers, any bitching on some website somewhere that "only" thousands of people read isn't that important. The vast majority of comics on the market today measure their audience in the thousands, which makes any negativity anywhere online more significant. And it's that significance that feeds back into the negativity, by making the bitchers and moaners feel more important.
Mike
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Michael Lee Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1133
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Posted: 27 July 2007 at 2:26am | IP Logged | 6
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Martin (OT)
Who were the two characters allegedly killed at the fans' request?
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Dave Lee White Byrne Robotics Member
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Joined: 26 July 2007 Posts: 36
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Posted: 27 July 2007 at 2:34am | IP Logged | 7
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Any opinion -- even an informed opinion -- expressed from behind the
shelter of a screen name is rendered automatically invalid, as far as
I'm concerned.
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Kevin Hagerman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 15 April 2005 Location: United States Posts: 18102
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Posted: 27 July 2007 at 2:41am | IP Logged | 8
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Welcome back, Dave. I'd ask why you bothered, but I don't care.
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Dave Lee White Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 July 2007 at 2:51am | IP Logged | 9
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I am not the fake LeBlanc.
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Louis Bright-Raven Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 29 August 2006 Posts: 65
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Posted: 27 July 2007 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | 10
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JB writes:
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You are right, Trevor. I love superheroes -- and that love is what keeps me from wanting to make them MINE. I want to recapture the magic that drew me to the genre, so others can experience it as I did. That doesn't happen when the stories begin with the fan mentality. It's too inbred, too insular. |
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Yeah, but YOUR superheroes are far more fun and easier to capture that magic with than with M***** or DC characters.
Edited by Louis Bright-Raven on 27 July 2007 at 5:56pm
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Martin Redmond Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 July 2007 at 7:34pm | IP Logged | 11
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Micheal, here it is. I still enjoy the show I just always hate this kind of fan aknowledgement:
http://www.tvguide.com/news/lost-fans-dramatically/070402-03
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