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John Webb Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 02 June 2007 at 11:58am | IP Logged | 1
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I look at Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, and Steve Ditko as being the comic book counterparts to the Beatles, primarily John, Paul, and George
I agree 100% with that comment. having said that who was marvel's Ringo?
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Paul Greer Byrne Robotics Security
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I'm all for giving Kirby his due. But let's not ignore the fact that Steve Ditko, with Lee, created Marvel's most popular character not Kirby. I've read The Fly and it doesn't resemble Spider-Man in the least.
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Michael Connell Byrne Robotics Member
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John Romita sr.
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 16505
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Posted: 02 June 2007 at 12:01pm | IP Logged | 4
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JB wrote:
...Steve Ditko created Spider-Man, and never made a nickel more than his page rate for doing so. Can we please stop these insane efforts to strip the man of the credit he is due? ... |
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What I always admired about Ditko was his characters were all so different: The Creeper, Doctor Strange, Spider-Man, Hawk and Dove, in appearance as well as who they were.
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Paul Greer Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 02 June 2007 at 12:01pm | IP Logged | 5
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Marvel had a lot of Ringo's or Pete Best's in those early years.
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Michael Connell Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 02 June 2007 at 12:02pm | IP Logged | 6
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Nobody said that Jack created Spider-Man (except Jack) I just wondered what Jack's original Spider-Man sketches looked like.
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Paul Greer Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 02 June 2007 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | 7
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There are a lot of folks who support Jack's notion that he created Spider-Man.
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 02 June 2007 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | 8
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John wrote:
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You know, I think I'd go with what Micheal said: John Romita, Sr.
Like Ringo, he had talent and personality. He may not have been as wildly inventive as the others, but he was a very fine artist who was the backbone of Marvel, as Ringo was the backbone (backbeat?) of The Beatles.
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 02 June 2007 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | 9
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Paul wrote:
...There are a lot of folks who support Jack's notion that he created Spider-Man.... |
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Unfotunately for them, the actual evidence doesn't support them.
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John Papandrea Byrne Robotics Member
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Nathan Greno: OT: I can't help but think of the awesome version of the cover I own! :)
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So you are the one who owns the cover to my complete issue! :-)
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Paul Greer Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 02 June 2007 at 12:08pm | IP Logged | 11
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I would put inkers like Dick Ayers and Chic Stone more as the Ringo of early Marvel. They were a huge part in the look of the books but not as much on the creative side. Romita was the Elvis of Marvel. He was so good it didn't matter if he was covering other peoples material or creating his own.
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 02 June 2007 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | 12
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Stan saw a fly and created Spider-Man
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Is that really the case? I was under the impression that Stan came up with that story later so as to make the story simpler for interviews.
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