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Joe Zhang
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I haven't been a supporter of DC since then either. 
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Wouldn't Captain America deserve a better ending? It's like Batman slipping on the ice and breaking his hip.
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wow, I didn't realize this teapot was big enough for a tempest.

That said:

I haven't read thru this whole thread, but isn't this the same thing that
happened to Superman back in the 90s?: hero is killed, news media
catches it, sales go thru the roof, hero comes back.
(Except at the time, DC didn't think there was going to be such media
hype.)

And didn't Capt. America "die" before? Back when Steve Rogers was fired,
and someone else brought in? And didn't everything get smoothed out?

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since when has a comic character died forever? They all come back; it's
part of comics.
And up until recently, this question has had the answer of "Bucky! Bucky
has stayed dead, and he will always be dead!"

No; even Bucky can come back from being killed.
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Yeah, I'm sure Steve Rogers will come back eventually. But I think people see this as a degrading way to treat an iconic character.

The Death of Superman was derided as a sales gimmick - which it was. But at least Superman unquestionably "died" a hero. Captain America gets shot after alienating half the country and being exposed as out-of-touch with modern-day America. It's not exactly a hero's death. 

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Appropriately, with Cap's death, the last vestige of anything pure or decent about Marvel dies with him.

I don't care what the "point" is, I don't care if it's just a stunt that will be reversed, I don't care if the story is "good" or "well-written".

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Can we expect another 500-page essay, Greg?


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I'm just glad that FINALLY we can have some realism in comiks...

Edited, to add - I think it was Bin Laden that did it...



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For those who may be interested, I typed up a short blog entry on the CAP buzz:

http://zakiscorner.blogspot.com/2007/03/cap-veat.html

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And didn't Capt. America "die" before? Back when Steve Rogers was fired,
and someone else brought in? And didn't everything get smoothed out?

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How do you equate being fired with dying?

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Anyone who had the story spoiled by reading this forum, while continuing to spend most of their waking hours slagging-off JB over on IMWAN, gets no sympathy from me.

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If Marvel is doing this purely as a sales gimmick they sure aren't doing a very good job.  The comic comes out today (right?) and this is the first I've heard of it.  The Death of Superman was built up for months as I recall.  This isn't even something that would've gotten comic stores to order extra copies of...how could they if they didn't know?
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Can we expect another 500-page essay, Greg?

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Can I expect you to shut up and not mockingly probe old wounds of mine?

 

...also, my fingers hurt too much from the last time.

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The "death" is not the issue. It's the entire way Quesada and his cronies have been pimping out these formerly marvelous characters.
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