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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 12:42pm | IP Logged | 1
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I haven't been a supporter of DC since then either.
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Stephen Robinson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 12:45pm | IP Logged | 2
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Wouldn't Captain America deserve a better ending? It's like Batman slipping on the ice and breaking his hip.
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Andrew Hess Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 12:46pm | IP Logged | 3
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wow, I didn't realize this teapot was big enough for a tempest.
That said:
I haven't read thru this whole thread, but isn't this the same thing that
happened to Superman back in the 90s?: hero is killed, news media
catches it, sales go thru the roof, hero comes back.
(Except at the time, DC didn't think there was going to be such media
hype.)
And didn't Capt. America "die" before? Back when Steve Rogers was fired,
and someone else brought in? And didn't everything get smoothed out?
AND
since when has a comic character died forever? They all come back; it's
part of comics.
And up until recently, this question has had the answer of "Bucky! Bucky
has stayed dead, and he will always be dead!"
No; even Bucky can come back from being killed.
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Bruce Buchanan Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 12:53pm | IP Logged | 4
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Yeah, I'm sure Steve Rogers will come back eventually. But I think people see this as a degrading way to treat an iconic character.
The Death of Superman was derided as a sales gimmick - which it was. But at least Superman unquestionably "died" a hero. Captain America gets shot after alienating half the country and being exposed as out-of-touch with modern-day America. It's not exactly a hero's death.
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Zaki Hasan Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 12:53pm | IP Logged | 5
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Appropriately, with Cap's death, the last vestige of anything pure or decent about Marvel dies with him.
I don't care what the "point" is, I don't care if it's just a stunt
that will be reversed, I don't care if the story is "good" or
"well-written". *******
Can we expect another 500-page essay, Greg?
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Brian Deuser Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 12:53pm | IP Logged | 6
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I'm just glad that FINALLY we can have some realism in comiks...
Edited, to add - I think it was Bin Laden that did it...
Edited by Brian Deuser on 07 March 2007 at 12:57pm
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Zaki Hasan Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 12:54pm | IP Logged | 7
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For those who may be interested, I typed up a short blog entry on the CAP buzz:
http://zakiscorner.blogspot.com/2007/03/cap-veat.html
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 12:56pm | IP Logged | 8
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And didn't Capt. America "die" before? Back when Steve Rogers was fired, and someone else brought in? And didn't everything get smoothed out?
+++++++++++
How do you equate being fired with dying?
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Robbie Moubert Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 12:58pm | IP Logged | 9
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Anyone who had the story spoiled by reading this forum, while continuing to spend most of their waking hours slagging-off JB over on IMWAN, gets no sympathy from me.
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Joe Hollon Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 12:59pm | IP Logged | 10
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If Marvel is doing this purely as a sales gimmick they sure aren't doing a very good job. The comic comes out today (right?) and this is the first I've heard of it. The Death of Superman was built up for months as I recall. This isn't even something that would've gotten comic stores to order extra copies of...how could they if they didn't know?
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 12:59pm | IP Logged | 11
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Can we expect another 500-page essay, Greg?
++++++++++++++
Can I expect you to shut up and not mockingly probe old wounds of mine?
...also, my fingers hurt too much from the last time.
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 March 2007 at 1:00pm | IP Logged | 12
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The "death" is not the issue. It's the entire way Quesada and his cronies have been pimping out these formerly marvelous characters.
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