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Francesco Vanagolli Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 03 June 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 3130
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 11:45am | IP Logged | 1
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Comics are a form of literature, so my answer to the thread's title/question is YES.
I often think that there is a wrong idea in many persons about comics: they're stupid and everyone can write them. When these "everyone" are from tv or "real literature", it seems that they will give dignity to the comics, at last. Wrong. These guys never understood that a comic book writer (a good one) must be a good narrator. Like Stan Lee, JB, Roger Stern, Chris Claremont and many others.
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Kurt Anderson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 18 November 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2035
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 11:47am | IP Logged | 2
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Some will create degrees of respectablility for any artistic endeavor.
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Kurt Anderson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 18 November 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2035
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 11:52am | IP Logged | 3
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QUOTE:
Anyone who gets paid to write is a "real" writer. Regardless of medium. |
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But I wouldn't say that payment is a required brand of authenticity.
Artists are artists prior to their discovery and the sale of their work.
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Valerie Finnigan Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 March 2006 Posts: 838
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | 4
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QUOTE:
Assuming both present a story, which would you rather read? A comic without pictures, or a comic without words? |
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A comic without pictures is not a comic. On the other hand, after "reading" Uncanny 401, if I had to choose between words or pictures, I'd rather have just words.
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 December 2004 Posts: 12736
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 1:37pm | IP Logged | 5
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Kurt A., quoting & responding to me:
"Anyone who gets paid to write is a "real" writer. Regardless of medium."
But I wouldn't say that payment is a required brand of authenticity.
Artists are artists prior to their discovery and the sale of their work.
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Kurt;
I was working from the assumption that the word "real" in the original
post was meant to be read as "professional".
If I write, I am a writer in the most literal sense. If I write, and have not
been published, I am an "aspiring writer", even though in that most literal
sense I am still a writer. But then, I'm also a breather, speaker, sleeper,
eater, defecator. Not exactly "real" jobs. But once I've been paid for my
writing, I can claim that I am a Writer.
Where I see the real problem is that payment is not a required brand of
quality!
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Ray Brady Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3740
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 3:31pm | IP Logged | 6
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"Take any "great" writer, Hemingway, Homer, Miller ( of the crucible not
Civil War) or even mass market/mediocre ones , Dan Brown, CLive
Cussler,etc and one common themes to all is thier abillity, and neeed
to be able to create vivid images using only words." ----- How does Arthur Miller fit in here? The Crucible is not intended to be read; it's intended to be performed. The "vivid images" are not provided by the words alone, but also by the actors, sets, lighting, etc.
Reading the script of a play is the equivalent of reading the script a comic book writer provides to his penciller.
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Martin Redmond Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 June 2006 Posts: 3882
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | 7
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I thought an artist got ploting credit whenever they drew the whole comic from only one vague command.
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J.C. Alexander Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 07 August 2006 Location: United States Posts: 183
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 5:57pm | IP Logged | 8
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Correct!
Which brings us to the times when fans have informed me that I did not actually "write" the silent stories I have done!
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Waitaminit...what silent stories? I consider myself a JB afficiando and I can't think of one silent story.
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Aaron Smith Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 06 September 2006 Location: United States Posts: 10461
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 5:59pm | IP Logged | 9
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There was a silent Batman issue, I think. The first part of "Many Deaths of the Batman" if memory serves.
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 17700
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 6:42pm | IP Logged | 10
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Yes.
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Dan Bowen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 14 August 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 953
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 6:52pm | IP Logged | 11
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J.C. Alexander: Different medium. Period
I'll go with that.
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Dan Bowen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 03 February 2007 at 6:56pm | IP Logged | 12
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Darragh Greene: "Roland Barthes once said, 'Literature is what gets taught'. Comics are turning up on English Literature and Cultural Studies courses moreand more in recent years, so by virtue of being taught at university, have they been elevated by the academy to the status of literature?
But what gets pushed aside or dispensed with, Darragh? And is that a good thing?
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