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Joe Zhang
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" I feel that a hero is someone who puts the needs of others before their own needs"
I agree with that.
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Brian Crispkey
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No Rance, you've got it all wrong; they did that for sexual thrills. Or
something.
Joe: you contradict yourself constantly. It's almost funny.
Almost.
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Brian Crispkey
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"And you cannot grasp the difference between doing
something heroic and being heroic?"
Frankly, I can't either. You can't do something heroic without being
heroic. If your motivations are anything other than heroic, then what you're
doing isn't heroic either. Risky, yes. Heroic, no.
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Joe Zhang
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"And how would you describe the "vibe" you get from reading Watchmen and Underground Comix?"
It's that feeling of deep, rich contempt the narrative has for the characters. Like how the old, bald guy raped his secretary because he hadn't had sex with his handicapped wife in years. I get from "Comix" too.
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Joe Zhang
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"Joe: you contradict yourself constantly. It's almost funny."
Note to self: Brian C. is such a tough guy I will never ever laugh at him again.
LOL
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Steve Horton
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We don't need another hero
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond
The Thunderdome
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Joe Zhang
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Now Tina Turner is my hero.
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Monte Gruhlke
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You can be someone self-centered who gets a rare sudden impulse to do
the right thing, and sweating the consequences afterwards (and possibly
arguing with himself to do it). (ie: the movie Hero with Dustin Hoffman).
Heroic.
And you can be someone altruistic at heart who never even hesitates to do
the right thing no matter the consequences. (ie: Donner's Superman). Being
Heroic.
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Brian Crispkey
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Tough guy? Yes joe, whatever you say. I'm just happy not to be the poster
child for everything that's perceived to be wrong with this forum by
outsiders.
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Joe Zhang
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" I'm just happy not to be the poster
child for everything that's perceived to be wrong with this forum by
outsiders."
Ohh nooo, I've lost the love of the outsiders ! Whatever will I do ?
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Patrick Drury
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It's that feeling of deep, rich contempt the narrative has for the
characters. Like how the old, bald guy raped his secretary because he
hadn't had sex with his handicapped wife in years. I get from "Comix"
too.
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So when you refer to Underground Comix, are you reffering to the specific movement that wore that name and was sold in headshops and the like, or are you using the term to refer to a wider range of indie, nons-superhero comics?
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Joe Zhang
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Basically, heroic is the adjective while hero / heroine is the noun. I suppose even a villain can act heroically once in his life.
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