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Patrick Drury Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 07 February 2007 at 11:09am | IP Logged | 1
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Watchmen was the superhero genre through the lens of the Underground Comix. =====================
How do you figure?
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 07 February 2007 at 11:17am | IP Logged | 2
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I got the same vibe reading Watchmen.
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Rance Johnson Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 07 February 2007 at 11:46am | IP Logged | 3
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I can see the argument for Watchmen not being a superhero story, although I would argue that there were heroes in it. They were simply flawed like everyone else. In that way they reflect the real world more than a typical superhero story would. There are no people in the real world who could live up to the standards that superheroes adhere to.
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 07 February 2007 at 11:55am | IP Logged | 4
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What is a hero, Rance?
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Brian Crispkey Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 07 February 2007 at 12:46pm | IP Logged | 5
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"I got the same vibe reading Watchmen."
So it's really more of an opinion than any kind of fact then, Joe?
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 07 February 2007 at 12:51pm | IP Logged | 6
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Sure.
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Brian Crispkey Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 07 February 2007 at 12:58pm | IP Logged | 7
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You might want to re-word this then:
"Watchmen was the superhero genre through the lens of the Underground
Comix. There's nothing super or heroic in the Watchmen. 'Nuff said."
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 07 February 2007 at 1:19pm | IP Logged | 8
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No, that's alright.
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James Revilla Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 07 February 2007 at 1:23pm | IP Logged | 9
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I can see the argument for Watchmen not being a superhero story, although I would argue that there were heroes in it. They were simply flawed like everyone else. In that way they reflect the real world more than a typical superhero story would. There are no people in the real world who could live up to the standards that superheroes adhere to.
I agree with all that....which is why it wasn't a superhero story and most of us starting reading super hero stories. To see something greater than we are.
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Rance Johnson Byrne Robotics Member

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Well, ignoring the fact that you are merely asking so that you can refute it, I feel that a hero is someone who puts the needs of others before their own needs. Who will risk their own lives to save the life of another...
Now, it's been a while since I read Watchmen, but I distinctly remember a scene with Silk Spectre and Owlman saving people from a burning building. To me, that is heroic.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 07 February 2007 at 1:28pm | IP Logged | 11
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And you cannot grasp the difference between doing
something heroic and being heroic?
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Patrick Drury Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 07 February 2007 at 1:28pm | IP Logged | 12
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I got the same vibe reading Watchmen. ------------------------------------
And how would you describe the "vibe" you get from reading Watchmen and Underground Comix?
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