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Dusty Abell
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 4:48pm | IP Logged | 1  

I always cringe when I read or hear that statement. Illustrative example of why? I set out to do "old fashioned comic book fun" and did BATMAN & CAPTAIN AMERICA and GENERATIONS. Frank Miller set out to do "old fashioned comic book fun" and did DK2.


generations and b-man and cap (both are currently well displayed in my spinner rack)are easily on the side of the scale that invincible occupies, dk2 on the other. there's very little material dc or marvel is putting out these days i enjoy, thats why i'm throwing this one out at ya, and anyone else who might be interested, i promise, no cringe inducing moments in the series so far, just a character who mixes the funnest parts of classic spider-man and the heroics of the best superman stories.
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Stephen, I don't know if you honestly misunderstood JB's answer to your question concerning his commissions but look at what you asked, look at what JB said, and look at his commissions and the comments about them and hopefully you will see what he is talking about. Nothing "cantankerous" at all about his answer.

As a long time comic book reader, I have given up on modern comics as well for the exact same reasons as described above. The only thing I read now is Uncle Scrooge (really!) as it still provides the fun of comics. The new stuff is dark and depressing and boring, especially coming out of Marvel, which is a shame.

Look at it this way. I am a high school teacher and one of my Grade Nine students was asking me about superheroes since they knew about my collection. I gave him the "Man of Steel" miniseries by JB and he loved it. He wanted to talk about it and was excited. I gave him a modern comic book and he just looked at it blankly and asked for more Superman comics like the one I gave him. I gave him quite a pile of older comics and he was quite happy. That is the problem with modern comics.
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Gerry Turnbull
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Invincible is an excellent read,with top notch art.
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Gerry Turnbull
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 4:54pm | IP Logged | 4  

JB, do you go into comic shops and have a look ?

(imagine being in your local and JB comes in?)

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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 5:00pm | IP Logged | 5  

Neil thanks for sharing the story..you are obviously not  alone in your assessment..

 As far as the otherstuff..I'm beyond caring now, after all this..lol

 A simple answer, instead of trying to 'figure out" anything would have been nice.This is where  people get misunderstood, and shit stirred up.

 Thats all.
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 5:09pm | IP Logged | 6  

"When <I> do commissions, they are motivated by what the commissioner ASKS for, and what they PAY me"

You may not know this, but JB turns down commission themes he doesn't find interesting. So it's fair to assume all his commission output reflects his own interests as well as the clients'.
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Joe Zhang
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 5:11pm | IP Logged | 7  

"A simple answer, instead of trying to 'figure out" anything would have been nice."

Maybe he just assumed you have more interpretive facilities than you actually do.
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Stephen Sadowski
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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 5:13pm | IP Logged | 8  

Maybe , Joe...maybe.<rolls eyes>

 Either way..LOTS of assuming going on isnt there? lol

Best let the man talk for himself, no?
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Right on Dave.

Yeah there's a ton of alternate comics that is fantastic. The whole trend of zombie comics and noir-inspired stuff alone has me giddy in that regard.

Superhero comics, or the "life's blood", is the problem. Rather than forging ahead and creating their own path, American superhero comics have decided to become what they were never, ever, meant to be: movies. And not good movies, but television movies, as already discussed.

Worse yet, the obsession with "Terrorism" in comics. All right, we get it...there's Terrorism, there's awful governmental invasions, right right, it's on the news every bloody day. What's the point exactly in having contemporary superheroes dealing with Terrorism? Again, the men running the companies are writing comics about contemporary issues to appeal to other men reading them...which would be fine, if they weren't using characters created for kids to enjoy. If you want to talk about Terrorism, then use character appropriate contextually to talk about the issue, like Agents of Atlas or Daredevil or whatever.

I'd really like to see a comic that had thought balloons and captions again. Seriously, just to piss off the fanboys who think that's low-brow in "their" comics. I loved that JB put in Jason Blood having a running conversation with himself in issues of BLOOD OF THE DEMON. The kind of conceit of the medium which at one time was perfectly acceptable. Marvel used this method to basically have a character, like Spider-Man, talking to himself and by proxy the reader, creating an even more intimate relationship between reader/story. It was a brilliant bit, a Stan Lee forte.

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I never trust anyone who writes "lol" after anything THEY find funny. I'm sorry, but you come off as extremely self-conscious.

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Posted: 19 January 2007 at 5:50pm | IP Logged | 11  

And the over-use of ALL-CAPS tends to convey a certain mania (which most likely isn't there.)
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Stan Lomisceau
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mr. sadomski, if you have not understand that to be so happy to see all of the great characters from when you were a child is the thing that can make every man happy in his life then i guess you can not understand the mind of mr. byrne. he has always been thinking as i have been thinking and even when i have become a child i always knew that the heroes of the comic swere bigger than all of life. there was so much grander in comics and you do not see that so much now i think and it is really seeing these heroes that is great. for mr. bryne he can spend so much great time with so many great characters and they are heroic and real men. it is like mr. carter said, you have to be a real man! well, that is just how i think of it and do not think i know what mr. byrne would say because i do not. he is a big man and he can say these things by himself. i hope you have learned better now mr. sadowski and if you are loving comics than that is great!
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