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Stephen Sadowski
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Sometimes, paul, yeah....:)
But the point of the question..and indeed the thread that I started..was just to see what makes JB smile..if there was anything that he looks at or cracks open ( specificaly anything NEW) that just sparks that ten year old imagination...and possibly some further insight to a man whose work inspires ME.
Not the answers I was looking for, I guess...
I should have known better.
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Dave Phelps
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JB said he liked Dave Gibbons' "The Originals" OGN that came out not that long ago.
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Robert White
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Once again, what we're talking about here are "superhero" comics. From what little I've explored, I have to agree with the sentiment that alternative and independent comics are as good, if not better, than they ever have been.
Superhero comics are in an odd predicament nowadays--nobody seems to know what to do with them. Should they be written for all-ages? Should they be written however the hot new Hollywood or Brit writer wants to write them? Who exactly is the modern superhero comic fan? Seems like a colossal mess that nobody wants to clean up.
I feel that superhero comics are the trickiest types of comics to create. Contrary to the beliefs of some, superheroes are not just a mix of fantasy and science-fiction with costumes thrown in. The genre has long become a distinct genre all unto itself. There are many inherent conceits, some that would translate as camp or downright goofy in our world, that have to be bought into and understood before the stories can work.
I've never seen a guy dressed as Spider-Man or Superman in real life NOT look ridiculous on some level. However, when I see Spider-Man drawn by John Romita, or Superman drawn by JB, "ridiculous" never crosses my mind. In the internal reality of superhero comics, all is completely normal. Sure, some supporting characters might refer to costumes heroes as "costumed freaks" but little thought is given to the oddness of the garish costumes themselves. In the Marvel and DC universes, people have simply bought into these things.
I point to the "magic" JB speaks of with a proper portrayal of Batman. Yes he's wearing fabrics and a cape, all of which technically exist in our universe, but they sure as hell don't move and act like normal materials would, now do they? You HAVE to be able to buy into the quasi-realness/quasi-fantasy aspects or the genre simply falls apart and looses all sense of self.
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Jason Carpenter
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What comics these days lack to me is a sense of scale and scope. The melodrama is also gone in many way, the classical melodrama has been replaced with too much soap opera. Look at the Ultimate Galactus Trilogy... it failed to give you a sense of awe that the original provided. The threat seemed meaningless. Even on the Authority, Ellis was able to provide these grandiose plots but I find the stories lacked that awe factor, it still had a sense of "been there, done that" rather than a feeling of "woah, they are fighting a whole nother universe" or "they are fighting GOD" it was more like "these blue skinned bastards will pay" and "God looks like a space turd, let's flush em".
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Michael Penn
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I should have known better.
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Seems like there are a host of unfair assumptions behind that conclusion.
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Joe Zhang
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"( specificaly anything NEW)"
It seems he isn't that impressed with the new stuff. What's the big deal about that?
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Stephen Sadowski
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Unfair? Maybe...Unwarranted..no.
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Stephen Sadowski
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Joe: No big deal..just curious.
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Joe Zhang
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"What else should I glean from being asked to look at a commission gallery?"
All you see is dollar signs. Now I'm beginning to wonder about your own sincerity to your craft.
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Troy Nunis
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i guess we COULD assume the dig deal is that all of Stephen's work would count as "New stuff" and he's hurt JB does't buy his work increasing his annual income by that much.
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Paulo Pereira
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QUOTE:
Alan Davis is one helluva artist, but here we have a page of two of the more powerful characters in the Marvel Universe, and they are standing around
talking.
Alan Davis can draw as well as any artist out there, and better than most,
AND I love his stuff (just *look* at the mouth of Galactus in that last panel;
you can tell the tone of what he is saying without reading what he is
saying!!! brilliant), but seeing this makes me want to cry. |
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It's just one page. You can't have every page have characters fighting each other. Anyway, when has the Watcher and Galactus ever actually even fought in the first place?
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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My Topic-will-beClosed-Sense is triggering!!!
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