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Jacob Reyn
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Posted: 29 November 2006 at 1:19pm | IP Logged | 1  

It's fitting your first American comicstand magazine presented the theme of inheriting a comic magazine concept, seeing as though you've done so well so many times.
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Roger A Ott II
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Posted: 29 November 2006 at 1:40pm | IP Logged | 2  

That comic JB posted looks like it could have been something of an inspiration for GENERATIONS...

Edit: And JB more or less said as much right underneath the image...



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Rey Madrinan
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I don't think the problem with kid's today is the actual enviroment but the parents themselvs. I think I'm a fairly hardworking, dedicated guy, and I was raised in the late 80's and 90's. So the whole "technology is making people suck" seems sort of simplistic to me.

That being said, I always roll my eyes when people laugh at a different time. Context is everything.

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The Beavis and Butthead generation seems to dismiss everything...and in spite of having all the technology at their disposal is still stupid as hell and smugly ignorant or everything around them that is not spoon fed to them by TV
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Steven McCauley
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The neat thing about the newsstand photo that JB posted is that the comics are all in loosely aphabetical order!

I started buying from drug stores / 7-11s and the spinner rack.  I miss seeing those in stores today.

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Jo Harvatt
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Unfortunately I don't think the Beavis and Butthead generation (who must be getting into their thirties by now?) have the monopoly on smug ignorance of the world about them.
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Jacob Reyn
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I was a spin rack lurker too. At least twice a month I revisited the Mall's Book-Vila to make sure I hadn't missed any appearances of the Cap, Mr. Fantastic, Kent, or the Bat during the month. Then I'd go over to the magazine section and read Conan the Barbarian issues. 

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Chad Carter
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Disposable culture creates disposable people. I don't even consider teenagers human, not when I was a teenager and certainly not now. Teens have joined crazy homeless in the top three Shitty Things to Deal With (in public):

Idiot (unsafe) drivers.

Crazy homeless.

Teens.

I guess if you live in Compton or Detroit, bullets probably jumps to number one or number two. But I don't really have that problem (yet).

I haven't met a teenager yet I wouldn't at least consider trading away at BEST for a (fair-good) copy of BLACK GOLIATH Issue 2. You can't get a number one for a teen, no way.

Whether the fault of parents or not, most teens I see have all the intellectual capacity of sparrows who fly into windows and break their necks. There's nothing in their eyes at all. Maybe I was that way myself, but I bloody well doubt it. I was screwed up, Bobby Terry, but not vapid.

 

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Wow.  I'm awfully glad I don't live in your world, Chad.
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Matthew Hansel
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One of the best?! parts of the "rack" days was the fact, at least where I lived, that it was a gamble whether or not you'd get the NEXT issue.

I remember the day that the first issue of the ROBIN mini-series by Chuck Dixon, Tom Lyle and Bob Smith came out.  I ran down to our locally owned pharmacy to pick it up (I was actually not even sure they'd have it), and there it was, hiding behind that beautiful Brian Bolland cover.  I was extra excited because it had a SPECIAL pull-out post by NEAL ADAMS, who had designed the new costume. 

BUT...DAMN...for some reason I didn't have enough money.  I ran back to the car to ask my mom for the addition change, and in the two minutes it took me to do that...some PUNK had bought it.

AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!

I didn't read that first issue for a long time, as I refused to pay the $10 or dollars that the ONLY comic shop in the area (which was over an hour away) wanted for it.

Oh the joys of this hobby.

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Compliments of Neal Stephenson: 

    Orlando used to have a military installation called McCoy Air Force Base, with long runways from which B-52s could take off and reach Cuba, or just about anywhere else, with loads of nukes. But now McCoy has been scrapped into Orlando's civilian airport. The long runways are being used to land 747-loads of tourists from Brazil, Italy, Russia, and Japan, so that they can come to Disney World and steep in our media for a while.
    
To traditional cultures, especially world-based ones such as Islam, this is infinitely more threatening than the B-52s ever were. It is obvious, to everyone outside of the United States, that our arch-buzzwords - multiculturalism and diversity - are false fronts that are being used (in many cases unwittingly) to conceal a global trend to eradicate cultural differences. The basic tenet of multi-culturalism (or "honoring diversity" or whatever you want to call it) is that people need to stop judging each other - to stop asserting (and, eventually, to stop believing) that this is right and that is wrong, this true and that false, one thing ugly and another thing beautiful, that God exists and has this or that set of qualities.
    
The lesson most people are taking home from the twentieth century is that, in order for a large number of different cultures to coexist peacefully on the globe (or even in a neighborhood), it is necessary for people to suspend judgement in tihs way. Hence (I would argue) our suspicion of, and hostility toward, all authority figures in modern culture. As David Foster Wallace has explained in his essay "E Unibus Pluram", this is the fundamental message of television; it is the message that people absorb, anyway, after they have steeped in our media long enough. It's not expressed in these highfalutin terms, or course. It comes through as the presumption that all authority figures - teachers, generals, cops, ministers, politicians - are hypocritical buffoons, and that hip jaded coolness is the only way to be.
    
The problem is that once you hace done away with the ability to make judgements as to right and wrong, true and false, etc., there's no real culture left. All that remains is clog dancing and macrame. The ability to make judgments, to believe things, is the entire point of having a culture. I think this is why guys with machine guns sometimes pop up in places like Luxor and being pumping bullets into Westerners. They perfectly understand the lesson of McCoy Air Force Base. When their sons come home wearing Chicago Bulls caps with the bills turned sideways, the dads go out of their minds.
    
The global anticulture that has been conveyed into every cranny of the world by television is a culture unto itself, and by the standards of great and ancient cultures like Islam and France, it seems grossly inferior, at least at first. The only good thing you can say about it is that it makes world wars and Holocausts less likely - and that is actually a pretty good thing!
    
The only real problem is that anyone who has no culture, other than this global monoculture, is completely screwed. Anyone who grows up watching TV, never sees any religion or philosophy, is raised in an atmosphere of moral relativism, learns about civics from watching bimbo eruptions on network TV news, and attends a university where postmodernists vie to outdo each other in demolishing traditional notions of truth and quality, is going to come out into the world as one pretty feckless human being. And - again - perhaps the goal of all that is to make us feckless so we won't nuke each other.

Might be appropriate for this thread, might not.

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Jacob P Secrest
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Posted: 29 November 2006 at 5:54pm | IP Logged | 12  

 David Lopez wrote:

Seriously? they (specifically Marvel as mentioned in my post) still publish
"monster" comics? how could I have missed this?
perhaps because they don't.

Marvel Monsters

Or if you prefer:

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?book_id=3573

Seriously, a Google search for "Marvel Monsters" would have confirmed
that Marvel is publishing Monster comics, because that is literally the
name of the book (which is a collection of random assorted monster
comics Marvel has been publishing).

Now the question becomes more relevant, how could you have missed
that?

Edited by Jacob P Secrest on 29 November 2006 at 5:56pm
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