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Clint Adams Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 507
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 12:33pm | IP Logged | 1
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We were posting on another topic (the Adam Hughes one) about not being surprised anymore, and I came forth with the idea that the internet has ruined all suprise in comic books. Do you guys feel that this is true?
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 May 2006 Location: United States Posts: 15775
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 12:37pm | IP Logged | 2
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Partly. Print mags like Wizard and Previews take the rest of the blame.
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David Whiteley Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 12:41pm | IP Logged | 3
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I agree it definitely impacted in a huge way. Even those of us trying to avoid spoilers (whether it is plot points, covers and so on) have a hard time doing so. This, and the constant tearing apart of storylines before they even see print, make it tough to be surprised.
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Richard Siegel Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 04 January 2005 Location: United States Posts: 868
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 12:41pm | IP Logged | 4
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I miss letter columns and the net blurbs every single artist/writer as a) a "superstar or b) 'rising super star' or c) hot new talent.
There's a point of no return when blurb-o-matic means nothing.
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Jeremy Nichols Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 02 May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 634
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 12:43pm | IP Logged | 5
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I still have plenty of surprise when I read my comics. I don't read
Wizard, don't look through Previews, and generally avoid
spoiler-type articles and such on the web. If one wants to still
be surprised by comics, just ignore all the hype/spoiler stuff.
As far as actual in-comic plotline surprises, I must say the
recent GLC mystery was pretty easy to solve beforehand.
Perhaps that's just cause I'm older now... at 12-13 I might never
have seen it coming.
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Jeff Lommel Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 07 July 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1039
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 12:50pm | IP Logged | 6
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I don't read those magazines, and I don't read spoiler articles on the web, so no, I don't think the internet has ruined comics. I like being able to interact with creators and other fans on forums, to read about upcoming projects, stuff like that. If anything, the internet has increased my awareness of what is out there.
There is a dark side to the internet and its allowance of everybody to seem like an "informed insider", where it can do harm to a creators career. "If xxxx said this guys stuff sucks, then it must suck! Why are you reading him, he sucks?" Then the bandwagon starts rolling, and it's hard to stop.
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Roger A Ott II Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 29 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 5371
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 12:55pm | IP Logged | 7
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Well, it certainly can ruin all surprise. If you let it.
Personally, I avoid spoiler sites like the plague, I don't read Wizard, and my online retailer sends me a text document of Previews every month, so I can pretty much avoid the major spoilers in there, too.
I do, however, rely on word of mouth among people who's opinions I trust, such as the Pull List thread on this very board. I can get a general idea if I'm going to like a title based on what people here say, and most everyone is nice enough to announce their spoilers.
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Brian Deuser Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 12:58pm | IP Logged | 8
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Agreed, Jeff - There's a Good and Dark side of the internet:
The Good - websites like this
The Bad - spoilage (and brain rot) galore
Even before the internet, you could pick up a spoiler magazine or trade. If you don't like that stuff, or are surprised at how dull it is when you know everything in advance, just avoid it. Today, that means clicking somewhere else.
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Dave Carr Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 1:00pm | IP Logged | 9
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No. It has clearly established that some within the industry simply cannot adapt to a dramatic change in technology.
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Lance Hill Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | 10
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Thanks to the Internet I can learn about all kinds of new comics and order comics that I can't find at my local stores.
If it wasn't for this I doubt I'd be reading many comics today.
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 1:16pm | IP Logged | 11
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"and I came forth with the idea that the internet has ruined all suprise in comic books"
The way that DC and Marvel are using the Internet, yes it has ruined any suprises in their own product.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 28 August 2006 at 1:20pm | IP Logged | 12
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Only if you chose to read those spoilers. Like others here, I don't. I don't go to their websites. I don't buy Wizard (for a whole host of reasons, one of which is spoilers). I don't buy Previews. I try to enforce invso text or big spoiler warnings here on the board. So, yeah, I'm still surprised by everything I read.
The biggest problem with the net and comics, as I see it, is that it's given voice to a small group of people. It's empowered them...and both Marvel and DC listen to them as if they are the majority and not, in fact, the minority that they really are.
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