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Luke Smyth
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| Posted: 25 June 2006 at 12:44pm | IP Logged | 1
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No one has yet shown me how Alan Moore making it a point to keep his
name off dramatizations of his comics writing because he doesn't feel they
do justice to his characters
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That is not the reason he does not want his name associated with the films. Stop twisting the truth to support your false claims.
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Matt Reed
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Then what is the reason, Luke? Is it because Moore didn't like the font used in the opening credits? Or is it because, as he has said, he writes for comic books, a specific medium, and doesn't think that his work translates to film? That's what I've read. So taking your name off of something you don't think will be well represented isn't just someone casually saying "Today, I don't want my name on the film" and nothing more. It's a protest. It calls attention to the fact that Moore isn't endorsing it with his name. I don't know any other way you can paint that and make it work to support your assertion that Moore is so lackadaisical that he really couldn't give two shits about a particular project...and oh, by the way, take my name off please.
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Flavio Sapha
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| Posted: 25 June 2006 at 12:54pm | IP Logged | 3
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JB wrote: Proceeds from "Peter Pan" go to support a children's
charity hospital. Should such an organization really have to sue to prevent a
writer perverting their property? Is the world we live in really that sick?
'nuff said!
Edited by Flavio Sapha on 25 June 2006 at 12:55pm
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Jacob P Secrest
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| Posted: 25 June 2006 at 1:04pm | IP Logged | 4
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Matt Reed wrote:
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It's because when Moore put his name on the League of Extraordinary
Gentlemen movie, he got caught up in a plagiarism lawsuit based mainly
around the changes made for the movie.
After hours of being questioned for things that were entirely out of his
control*, he decided he wanted no further involvement with Hollywood.
Period.
It isn't a protest on the quality, he just wants nothing to do with it
because of all the crap surrounding the LOEG movie.
*Well, not exactly out of his control, he could've been a consultant on the
movie, he just chose not to be, because he felt the movie didn't affect him
or his work.
Edited by Jacob P Secrest on 25 June 2006 at 1:06pm
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Rance Johnson
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The stories aren't written for children, so what difference does it make? If you don't like it, don't read it. Seems simple enough to me. By the way, I'll be one of the people not reading it. That doesn't mean I feel the need to impose my sense of values on everyone else. So if you don't want to read it don't, but if others do, mind your own damn business.
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Jacob P Secrest
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I don't care one way or the other about LOST GIRLS really, other than me
completely being on the side of Great Ormond Street Hospital in a legal
manner.
I doubt I'll ever read it, so it doesn't affect me much.
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John Byrne
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The "sense of values" at issue here is that Moore is using, inappropriately and without permission, someone else's property. Wendy Darling is owned by the Great Ormond Street Hospital. She is not, as the other characters are, public domain.I suspect Moore was given some very, very bad legal advice.
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Flavio Sapha
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There is no point that I can see in using established characters unless one
intends to use them as established.
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Ok, I just pulled out Atlas Shrugged from the shelf. Page 96:
"Francisco smiled; it was a smile of radiant mockery. Watching them, Dagny
thought suddenly of the difference between Francisco and her brother Jim.
Both of them smiled derisively. But Francisco seemed to laugh at things
because he saw something much greater. Jim laughed as if he wanted to
let nothing remain great."
Edited by Flavio Sapha on 25 June 2006 at 1:19pm
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Joe Zhang
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"That doesn't mean I feel the need to impose my sense of values on everyone else."
By using classic characters, Lost Girls is an imposition of Moore's
values on those of other people. Imagine someone climbing on top the
Statue of Liberty, painting her face to look like a tart and declaring
that's what America is really about.
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John Byrne
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Probably not the best analogy, Joe. Icons like the Statue of Liberty and the American Flag exist as representations of what we, in this country, think ourselves to be. They are, as such, fair game for commentator who disagree with us.
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Gerry Turnbull
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heres Moore talking about it himself, interviewed on BBC Radio 4 this week
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/audio/full_alan_moore_inte rview.ram
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Rance Johnson
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Joe, if you choose not to read "Lost Girls" then you don't have to have any exposure to it whatsoever. The same couldn't be said of someone painting up the Statue of Liberty.
If you don't like the subject matter, don't subject yourself to it, and let other people make up their own minds about whether they will read/view it for themselves.
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