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Jason Fulton
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The call has been put out, now the merit badgers will start pouring in.
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Matt Linton
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Alan Moore has said in multiple interviews that he's not happy with the Killing Joke. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Edited to add link to an interview:
http://www.blather.net/articles/amoore/brought_to_light1.htm l
for some reason a space keeps showing up before the last "l". Without the space the address should work.
Edited by Matt Linton on 12 June 2006 at 8:53am
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Jeff Patterson
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I liked Moore's run on Supreme. Yes, some of the flashbacks were shot for shot remakes of the old Superman stories, but he managed to make the old standalone gimmick issues of the 60s and 70s feel like part of the history of the current, arc-driven character. When I read current Superman stories, at no point to I get the impression that this is the same man who once became a Super-Hippie, or saved Jimmy from marrying the ape queen, or became a pop-star to stop an invasion or was crowed King of the Earth. If anything his Supreme run proved that Crisis was unnessesary to resolve stylistic discrepancies. And the Kirby tribute issue was a wild ride.
I also liked his Judgment Day mini, which demonstrated that a universe-rebooting event could be done in three issues without having to rewrite every character from the ground up.
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Phil Southern
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At this point, in the ever contentious relationships between Moore and the two major publishers, why doesn't DC just say "the heck with it, lets do a new Watchmen!"
Worst comes to worst, Alan Moore will refuse to work with them again!
Phil
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David Brunt
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What would be the point? Some things are better left alone. I'm thinking of Casablanca - how awful would a sequal be? Not only would it not feature the unique talents that added so much to it it would also invalidate it's bittersweet ending.
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Ted Pugliese
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I am not an Alan Moore fan, but I did like Killing Joke and Watchman. I really did. I think Watchman was excellent and wished he was allowed to use the Charlton heroes, not to watch them "jump the shark" (hate that expression), but to see Dave Gibbons draw them. I would love to see him do the Ted Kord Blue Beetle.
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Phil Southern
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About the same as the point behind the magnum opus Infinite Crisis-- Money. the positive being it could be ignored and not set everything ahead "One Year Later".
It seems as if Alan Moore is the most actively courted and accomodated creator today. However, he seems to find fault with even the best deals! I recall the Watchmen toys from a few years ago that were cancelled after there were concerns of Moore's reaction. I imagine that they were fearful he'd become fed up, and take all of his projects from Wildstorm. Flash foward to 2006, Moore gets angry and takes all of his projects from Wildstorm.
Phil
Edited by Phil Southern on 12 June 2006 at 12:38pm
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Joe Zhang
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"When I read current Superman stories, at no point to I get the
impression that this is the same man who once became a Super-Hippie"
Speaking as a "younger" reader, thank goodness for that !
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George Peter Gatsis
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Core Concept = Branding
Off of the Core Concept = Not on Brand
Superman is a Brand...
Superboy Prime is off Brand...
Concepts and characters created and later butchered ARE off Brand...
Any licensed property MUST stay on brand or else feel the wrath or the licensor...
Anything that is diconstructed and has inserted "what you knew before is a lie" concept... IS OFF BRAND...
Good or Bad... doesn't matter... going off Brand is an easy way to tell a story/character without any point of reference to tell if they (writer) messed up or not...
Best example in Corporate world happens everyday...
Compay A lays off alot of people for no other reason other than the board of directors need a 3rd porche in their driveway...
Once the lay offs are done... they restructure the company so no-one has a historical point of reference to say they are jerks... at this point they are praised...
Edited by George Peter Gatsis on 12 June 2006 at 1:51pm
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Ian M. Palmer
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Sometimes a character desperately needs "everything you knew was a lie". Captain Atom, for instance.
More than willing to write that one.
IMP.
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Keith Elder
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And who gave you the right to put the "burden" on me? And by "burden", i mean theft.
Who the hell is the government to steal money from me, and give it to someone it considers "unfortunate"?
Who decides who's "unfortunate"? The socialist parties on which the "unfortunate" vote on?
I think Mig's quickly becoming my favorite poster...
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Bill Collins
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Having seen Alan Moore on the Culture Show on BBC TV,i got the impression he was an angry,disgruntled and not very happy person.It was sad to see such a succesful and admired man with such a large chip on his shoulder.
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