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         Chuck Dixon Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 12 April 2006 at 6:52pm | IP Logged | 1
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JMS had to explain the difference between TV and comics to Joe Q? 
And in his little essay, teaching us all about comic book storytelling, no artist is ever credited.  
I guess he taught JR Jr how to lay out a page.  
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         Jason Fulton Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 12 April 2006 at 7:05pm | IP Logged | 2
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Yes, Dave Gibbons was just a hired hand on WATCHMEN.
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         Trevor Giberson Byrne Robotics Chronology 
  
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That explains why Amazing Spider-Man went straight to hell immediately once Jr. Jr. left....
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         John Webb Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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Has JMS really written a how to write comics essay? Well I guess you have to admire his self confidence at least. Does JMS have a bad reputation amongst artists for offhandedness, or anything else that could be seen as negative behaviour?
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         Jason Fulton Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 12 April 2006 at 7:13pm | IP Logged | 5
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He has a whole series of Newsarama essays demonstrating his "mastery of the form".
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         Jay Matthews Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 12 April 2006 at 7:16pm | IP Logged | 6
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I've never read any of JMS' work, and already I don't like him from the linked article and the things said here.
  I'm becoming the opposite number of the Byrne bashers!
  A JMS basher.  This feels eerie . . . I'm like Spock with a goatee in that Star Trek with the alternate universe. 
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         Leroy Douresseaux Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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When I saw the title of this thread, I didn't know what to expect, but JB is freakin' double dead on with this list... as he so often is about the editorial and business sides of comics. 
May I add a #11 - if you can take JB's and Chris' X-Men #141-142 and turn it into a 12-issue storyline, you shouldn't be writing superhero comics. 
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         Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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"I guess he taught JR Jr how to lay out a page." 
 
Maybe that's part of the reason why JR Jr left. 
 
BTW, I loved your Green Arrow stories, Mr Dixon. Thank you.  
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         Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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You know the "celebrity-writer" trend has gone too far when..." 
 
They should just title it as "JOSS WHEDON creator of the X-MEN". The public wouldn't even notice the difference.  
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         Glenn Greenberg Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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To Chuck Dixon,
 
 That last post of yours ROCKED!
 
 Right on, brother!
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         Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 12 April 2006 at 8:58pm | IP Logged | 11
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Thomas Mets wrote:
 The strange thing about #10 is that there have been some good 
 superhero stories by people who hate the medium. The best examples 
 that come to mind are Garth Ennis's Hitman issue guest-starring 
 Superman...
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 For the record, that's a story in which Superman is dealing with his failure 
 to prevent somebody's death.  He also fails to realize Tommy, the title 
 character, who advises him in a heart-to-heart on a rooftop through 19 
 pages is hired killer (Hitman) who kills his target after  Superman has 
 flown. 
 A great Superman story? No way. I read it about two weeks ago, as I came 
 across some Hitman back issues and began considering getting the whole 
 run. Until I stumbled into this ish. 
 
 I love Ennis PREACHER series.  In fact, I have been a fan of Ennis since he 
 published TROUBLED SOULS (about a young man who inadvertently gets 
 involved with the IRA) in the CRISIS British comics magazine.  Never 
 cared for his John Constantine, though.  He completely overhauled the 
 character when he took the title from Jamie Delano, and put him in the 
 service of the kind of story  Ennis writes no matter who stars in it. Vertigo 
 gave their writers this sort of latitude, apparently, and it has spilled over 
 to mainstream super-hero comics.  
 
 That the market has become so compressed that such writers work now 
 on super-heroes is a sad fact.  For him, as a writer, for the readers, but 
 even more so for the characters.
  Edited by Flavio Sapha on 12 April 2006 at 9:02pm
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         Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 12 April 2006 at 9:00pm | IP Logged | 12
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In the debut story of Hitman he kicks Batman in the balls. Bloody wonderful.  
 
Oops, wrong board !  
  Edited by Joe Zhang on 12 April 2006 at 9:00pm
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