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Jon Juzan Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 06 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 696
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 10:53am | IP Logged | 1
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No one is in a rage. And why they're talking about it is because they dislike the stunt, regardless of whether its been done before. If you're so ho hum about it, why are you posting about it? ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------
I didn't specify at this board, James. Go to Newsarama. There are people in a rage.
I posted about it because I agreed with Howard. It was nice to see an opinion I understand.
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James C. Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4705
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 10:57am | IP Logged | 2
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People at Newsarama are always in a rage. That's what they do.
And Jon, do you not understand the argument or do you not care?
I understand your dislike of Otis for example, I just don't share it.
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Mike Bunge Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1335
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 11:05am | IP Logged | 3
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"Sales have ebbed and flowed. When they're ebbing the PTB say,"Hey, it's time for you to goose the sales. Whatcha' got?" Suddenly, you get everything from "The Identity Crisis"(remember the Spidey books used that x-0ver title first) to the return of the parents... to Spider-Man joining the Avengers(is this only the 2nd time?) to the Clone Saga... to the Other... etc..."
Now, I suppose that used to be true for a book like Spider-Man. It probably still is...BUT, do you remember the Peter David/Joe Quesada/Bill Jemas dust-up a few years ago? Quemas announced they were raising the prices of several titles, including PAD's Captain Marvel, from $2.25 to $2.99 because they weren't selling well. PAD complained that would only further hurt the sales on his book and offered to write it for $20.99 a month if they didn't raise the price. That led to some nasty back-and-forth and, ultimately, a really bad comic written by Jemas.
In the midst of the controvery, unless my memory is completely failing me, Peter David made an admission that shocked me at the time. He said that the price-increase announcement was the first time anyone at M****l had informed him that sales on Captain Marvel weren't good. No one had bothered or thought it necessary to inform the writer of the book that sales were declining and maybe he should try something else.
I'm not sure the folks running M****l today understand the business quite as well as you do, Mr. Mackie.
Mike
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Jon Juzan Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 06 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 696
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 11:07am | IP Logged | 4
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A). "No one is in a rage."
B). "People at Newsarama are always in a rage. That's what they do." ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------
Does that take away from my point that there are people in a rage? Or is that statement a tangent to prove yourself right after I proved you wrong?
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James C. Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4705
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 11:16am | IP Logged | 5
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Jon, as you yourself noted, I was talking about here. No one here is in a rage.
Please, let's not play "Gotcha" this morning, K?
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Jon Juzan Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 06 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 696
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 11:19am | IP Logged | 6
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People never want to play after they started the game.
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James C. Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 11:27am | IP Logged | 7
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Jon Juzan wrote:
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Did I step in your Cheerios® this morning or something?
I just reviewed the last several posts I have made and while I see a scintillating conversation between Howard and myself, I don't see anywhere where I started a game of Gotcha.
So, if somehow in something I have posted you have taken umbrage, be aware that I have no animus toward you (or Howard, or anyone else.)
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 17700
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 12:25pm | IP Logged | 8
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I haven't seen Spider-Man in years (outside of the ESSENTIALS volumes), so I'm not as bothered by all of this as I would be if it were happening to... ummm... Spider-Man.
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Lance Hill Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 22 April 2005 Posts: 991
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 12:26pm | IP Logged | 9
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QUOTE:
Suddenly, you get everything from "The Identity
Crisis" |
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That one was pretty cool by the way! Although I read the storyline in the UK edition, so I didn't have to buy multiple titles.
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Jon Juzan Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 06 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 696
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | 10
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James, I made a point that people were in a rage about the costume. You said, "No one is in a rage." I said, "I didn't specify at this board, James. Go to Newsarama. There are people in a rage."
I proved my point there. End of discussion. Yet you had to come back with "People at Newsarama are always in a rage. That's what they do." With that statement you're attempting to discredit my point FOR NO REASON other than to be "obtuse".
End of discussion. I'm not talking about this anymore. Otis either. :)
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Joe Mayer Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 24 January 2005 Posts: 1397
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | 11
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Howard, thank you for your comments above. I have been reading comics for quite a while and I think what I have always enjoyed are these massive changes that show us and remind us what we appreciated to begin with.
I love these type of stories and I think the new outfit looks like a lot of fun. I am on for the ride and will pick up some of the books. And I have no doubt Spider-Man will go back to the traditional form as well, and when that happens I look forward to grabbing that storyline as well.
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Victor Manuel Fernandez Patiño Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 1602
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Posted: 02 February 2006 at 1:17pm | IP Logged | 12
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Thanks Howard... your comments really put some perspective to some of the
problems that seems to be plaging the comics industry this days.
Now I can keep this smile the whole day!
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