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Jonathan Watkins
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Optimisticc projection: Hundreds and hundreds of years from now there will have been enough hanky-panky going on between the races that everyone is tan, brown-haired, brown eyed and just "Human". We wouldn't have the wonderful variety of beauty, but maybe it would stem the divisiveness.
Pessimistic projection: It'll all be the same as now, but our robot overlords won't use race as a consideration when deciding who gets sent to work in the off-world mines.
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Andrew Bitner
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JB: ...it is also in the same category as Americans who claim to be 16th Cherokee or some other such nonsense. It's like an insane ghost of the "one drop" rule that permeated the South before (and, to be accurate, after) the Civil War -- the notion that if you had "one drop" of Black blood, you were Black. (I recall reading of a fairly notorious case in which a woman was sold at auction who was 1/64th Black!!)
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Notions of "racial purity" are some of the most pernicious and evil inventions we've ever created. Even achieving social acceptance between Caucasian nationalities has been difficult. My wife (a Filipina) is growing aware of injustices against her people historically, but she was surprised to learn how much animosity there was between the English, Dutch, German, Polish, Irish and Eastern European settlers as various waves of immigration came to this continent.
We Caucasians have been rather egalitarian in our ability to hate others.
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Matt Reed
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Ah, but it's not only Caucasians who are egalitarian in their ability to hate others. It's human nature, really. One group of people, whether they be White, Black, Asian, Hispanic or a mix of all the above, will always try to be egalitarian, try to be "better than" another group. Look at the long history of strife in many African nations. Not only politically motivated, but tribe against tribe. Look at the long history of strife in many South American countries or the hatred expressed between the Japanese and Chinese during WWII. Even look toward the reverse of the 1/64th Black auction JB references above, where certain people in the Black community look down on others who they consider "not Black enough". There's more than enough evidence through history that it's not the exclusive purview of Caucasians to hate, despise, and exclude others based solely on the way they look.
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John Mietus
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And this is why I don't read Spider-Man anymore.
Wait.
What were we talking about again?
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Darren Taylor
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Given that we are still here in another couple of thousand years, the
difference between one human and another will probably be very little
in the way of visual deviance.
If you can't put "them" into slavery and you can't exterminate "them"
then breed "them" out. Not that I'm suggesting that there was a
conscious decision by one "race" or another to do thus. Sometimes
though an solution can seem a little -too- perfect.
Human ancestory can be followed backwards like the branches of a tree.
As long as we are confined to this rock homogony is more likely than
divergence, that is untill we are homoginized as then the phylogenic
development will kick in creating new "specialist" divergences. But an
equilibrium will need to be reached first.
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Scott Rowland
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http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9759& amp;PN=1&TPN=3#reply
I agree with your final statement, but find it somewhat at odds with
your previous comments on movie casting. I don't want to mindread
or assume, but is the distinction because the movie casting involves
pre-existing characters that were ccreated and developed with certain
ethnicities in mind?
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John Byrne
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Even look toward the reverse of the 1/64th Black auction JB references above, where certain people in the Black community look down on others who they consider "not Black enough".**** About 20 years ago former "Venus Flytrap" Tim Reid address this in his show "Frank's Place", when the lead character, played by Reid, was invited to join the "Capital C" (for Creole) Club in New Orleans. He soon realizes he is being invited in because his skin is so dark, and he declines on this basis, saying he does not want to be the token Black man at an all-Black club!
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Rob Hewitt
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As JB said, superheroes are wish fulfillment-- what kid fantasizes about being married?
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I fantasized about being married to a gorgeous supermodel-I definitely did! The fact that nerdy Peter Parker did it was a great hope to me. Although she is no longer a supermodel, but a struggling broadway actress at this point. tomorrow, who knows?
When written right, the marriage works. When written porrly, it doesn't.
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Andrew Bitner
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Spike Lee's "School Dayz" addresses intraracial discrimination in the black community as well. Been a long time since I saw it but it was pretty raw in the way it described the different groups.
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John Byrne
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When written right, the marriage works.
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A married Spider-Man doesn't "work" no matter how
well written. In fact, it is such an inherent violation of
the character, it cannot, by definition, be "well
written".
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Bob Simko
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When I was a kid reading comics, if I would've been offered the chance to marry a super-model or become a super-hero, I would've picked the latter before the question was even completely asked!
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Wallace Sellars
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I'm also in the "Doesn't Work" camp when it comes to a married Spider-Man. Looks like I'm in the minority yet again. *sigh*
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