>>They're not only "of African descent." They are African (which does give them some similarities.) And here am I defending a story I'm probably not going to read (just not a fan of Milligan's X-Men, or Hudlin's Black Panther.)<<

T'Challa is African, but Storm is of African Descent, not African. Ororo is from Manhatten, and her father was American, while  her mother was African. As far as their getting married, i wonder how much EARTH X, which showed them as married, is a factor in this.

My personal least favorite of these foolish terms is "Native American". Aside from the fact that there are two Americas (North and South)*, and that there is no truly indigenous people in either, to be "native" one simply has to be born somewhere. I will never be "native American", but my children would be!


* Our seemingly relentless drive to carve the human race into ever smaller portions, increasing rather than discouraging divisiveness, gives us what I consider one of the oddest fairly recent developments, referencing Hispanic peoples as if they belong to a separate "race". Hispanic refers to people of Spanish decent living in Latin America, most usually Cuba, Mexico and Puerto Rico. Spanish is a nationality, not a "race". Unless we are going to decide that the French, Germans, Swiss, Italians, etc are all different "races", we really need to get over this. Hispanic peoples are Caucasian.

I used to think there were three distinct races - Cauacazoid, Negroid and Mongoloid, and that every person either "fit" into one category or was some sort of a blend of two or all three.  However, I have worked with Hispanic students who bristled if referred to as Black (though they may have coloring and features akin to Alfonso Soriano) or who were equally (if not more) offended if you referred to them as White (though they have coloring and features similar to Marilyn Milian).  Most of them also preferred Latino or Latina to Hispanic.

Too bad we can't just do the "Humanoid" thing and call it a day...

Bottom line -- anything that splits us up more than we already are ("we" meaning humans) is wrong.

JB: Hispanic refers to people of Spanish descent living in Latin America, most usually Cuba, Mexico and Puerto Rico. Spanish is a nationality, not a "race". Unless we are going to decide that the French, Germans, Swiss, Italians, etc are all different "races", we really need to get over this. Hispanic peoples are Caucasian.

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Ethnically, the Spanish may be generally Caucasian but some part of the population traces its ancestry back to the Moorish occupation of the peninsula up to the High Middle Ages; IIRC, the Moors were dark-complected African Muslims. (This is not to dispute JB's point but to affirm that Spain is a mingling of ethnicities from many centuries past.)

Similarly, the intermarriage of Spanish with native Central and South American people resulted in the ethnic subgroup "Hispanic"-- they share some common blood, language and culture (esp. Catholicism) with Caucasians but have more in common (in terms of physical characteristics) with American Indians. I wouldn't suggest that they are a different "race" at all, but are more accurately grouped with the pre-Western settlers of North, Central and South America.

As to the intermarriage with "natives" of South America -- these peoples, too, are considered Caucasian. (It has long struck me as decidedly ironic that some of the most racist ideas have sprung up within that race -- Caucasian -- which is easily the most mongrelized of the three!)

This is true -- but it is also in the same category as Americans who claim to be 16th Cherokee or some other such nonsense. It's like an insane ghost of the "one drop" rule that permeated the South before (and, to be accurate, after) the Civil War -- the notion that if you had "one drop" of Black blood, you were Black. (I recall reading of a fairly notorious case in which a woman was sold at auction who was 1/64th Black!!)

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Talk about "white" slavery! You can sort of wrap your mind around the xenophobia that allowed whites to view blacks as "other" but that sort of thing is even more mind-boggling. You're going to treat as furniture someone who doesn't look that different from your own sister.

A lot of white supremacists will talk about the destruction of the white race, but at lot of the "blame" lies at their own feet. If you keep kicking out members, you're gonna have a pretty empty club.