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John Byrne
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I never saw Peter Parker and Spider-man as separate characters in that Peter had a crappy life and Spidey had a wonderful life.**** Here's a tip -- if you have to exagerate the two ends of the spectrum in order to make your point, your point is invalid. No one is suggested Parker and Spider-Man (that M is capitalized, by the way) are "two separate characters". Rather, as originally portrayed, Spider-Man was a way for Peter to escape from the drudgery of his daily life. Not to escape far, nor for very long -- "With great power must also come great responsibility." -- but nevertheless something he could do that wasn't all about Aunt May, or Liz/Betty/Gwen/MJ, or school, or money, or whatever.
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Darren Taylor
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I kinda saw Spider-Man as Stress-relief for Peter. Hence all the
snappy-one-liners. He exuded a much more fun and carefree persona as
Spider-Man than as the "World-on-my-shoulders" Parker!
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Steve Jones
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Tip and point taken. It is true that being Spider-Man as originally envisaged was an escape, though as you note not for long or very far, from being Peter and all that entailed but now from what I can see as the character has "developed" over the years, it is almost impossible to separate them especially considering everyone and his brother appears to know Peter is Spider-Man, making any distinction pointless.
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Taavi Suhonen
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Flavio Sapha wrote:
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I had never noticed the startled guys on top of the building in the
background. Very cool. |
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I hadn't noticed them before either.
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Matt Hawes
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QUOTE:
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These days? Short answer: Spider-Man.
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Joe Zhang
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"These days? Short answer: Spider-Man."
That's a good point too.
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Stephen Robinson
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JB draws an amazing (er... sorry) Spider-Man. This is perhaps one of my favorite "shots" of him in action.
I'm not sure exactly when it happened -- arguably as early as when Peter started college -- but when Peter Parker began to have a "normal" life and Spider-Man was all that was wrong with it, the character took a fatal misstep.
What I loved about the early Lee/Ditko stories is that he's pretty much still a loser as Peter Parker. He's not popular. He still has to deal with Flash Thompson. I don't know how I can relate to him if he's dating golden girl Gwen Stacy.
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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I do love that JB's Homage!!!
(removed repeated graphic)
Edited by JohnByrne2 on 03 January 2006 at 10:18am
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John Byrne
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JB draws an amazing (er... sorry) Spider-Man. This is
perhaps one of my favorite "shots" of him in action.
****
Mine, too! I think I may have had my Joe Kubert hat
on that day!
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Brian Miller
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That is my all-time favorite shot of Spider-Man. Bad coloring and all.
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Wallace Sellars
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Me three, Flavio and Taavi!
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Victor Manuel Fernandez Patiño
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JB (And all of you too) do you have a theory why fans don't like Aunt May? I
always look at her like the heart of Spider-Man life. There where moment of
wisdom, of courage, of tenderness and above all love. I always cared about
the character but then I found that most of the younger fans didn't like her
and always claim for her blood... Is that a generational thing?
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