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Mikael Bergkvist Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 13 December 2005 at 12:27am | IP Logged | 1
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I mean, who do you think is the worthiest superhero, the most 'heroic' so to speak?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 13 December 2005 at 6:01am | IP Logged | 2
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This question has many layers. It would seem a natural to say "Superman", but it has been pointed out, with some degree of accuracy, that Superman's list of powers make him so hard to beat it somewhat takes the edge off his "heroism". Spider-Man seems a logical choice, but do we want our heroes driven by guilt?Distilling down all the bits and pieces, looking at the characters in their "pure" forms, mixed with my own feelings about what qualifies a "hero" -- putting the needs of others before ones own, doing so by personal choice, doing so for the "right" reasons -- I think I would be inclined to say.......Iron Man.
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John Mietus Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 9697
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Posted: 13 December 2005 at 6:06am | IP Logged | 3
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Interesting choice.
[Edited to add] And who would you say is the "most
heroic" from the other major publisher, under the
same criteria?
Edited by John Mietus on 13 December 2005 at 6:08am
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John Byrne
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Posted: 13 December 2005 at 6:10am | IP Logged | 4
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As I would have thought you could tell from my reference to both Superman and Spider-Man, I was chosing overall, not just one company.
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Victor Rodgers Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 13 December 2005 at 6:37am | IP Logged | 5
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What about Captain America?
He went out of his way to join the army, despite the fact he was declared unfit. He could have easily of quit. But he underwent a dangerous experiment that could have easily of killed him.
Edited by Victor .R. Rodgers on 13 December 2005 at 6:37am
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John Byrne
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Posted: 13 December 2005 at 7:07am | IP Logged | 6
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And THAT'S why I usually don't do these. . . .
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Victor Rodgers Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 13 December 2005 at 7:24am | IP Logged | 7
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I can see why you made your choice too. I picked Cap, after reading the final issue of your and Roger Stern's run on the title.
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Eric Lund Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 15 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2074
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Posted: 13 December 2005 at 8:27am | IP Logged | 8
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Great choice JB!
When I was first introduced to him I was just blown away...he was like nothing I ever saw and what was the most interesting is that he would get beat to shit more often than not and still pick him self up and continue fighting. It was the ultimate secret identity too because no one really could know who he was in his superhero personna.
He is I think my favorite superhero of all... but for me it is the Red and Gold suit from the 70's... so simple...so perfect....
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Roger A Ott II Byrne Robotics Member

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JB and Eric Lund pretty much sum up my feelings on the matter.
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Stephen Robinson Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 5833
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Posted: 13 December 2005 at 8:59am | IP Logged | 10
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Distilling down all the bits and pieces, looking at the characters in their "pure" forms, mixed with my own feelings about what qualifies a "hero" -- putting the needs of others before ones own, doing so by personal choice, doing so for the "right" reasons -- I think I would be inclined to say.......Iron Man.
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That's why I think it's a shame that so much garbage has been shoveled into his origin retroactively (such as the alcoholism). Much like Hulk's "MPD," this is something that you know Hollywood will dwell on this aspect of "realism."
It's a shame because Iron Man *is* such a great hero -- someone who through his own genius builds a suit that allows him to go toe-to-toe with the Hulk and Thor. He also overcame a disability... and then some.
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Bill Dowling Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 13 December 2005 at 9:00am | IP Logged | 11
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You know, I don't think I ever caught a really good run of Iron Man.
For some reason, I only got one or two issues of JB/JRJr's Iron Man. I
always sort of liked him, but never really got into him...but I always
loved the fact that he drank Dr. Pepper all the time.
I was a weird kid.
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Andrew Bitner Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 13 December 2005 at 9:11am | IP Logged | 12
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It's a great pick.
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