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Victor Rodgers
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That is the final word on this issue. He said everything im too dumb to articulate.
Edited by Victor .R. Rodgers on 09 December 2005 at 10:42pm
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Chris Hutton
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fanal--- not a word, but it SHOULD be!!
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Victor Rodgers
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Son of a bitch. I wish I knew what the hell is wrong with me lately.
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Ian M. Palmer
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All this about how strong Spider-Man should be:
Proportionate strength of a spider.
IMP.
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Emery Calame
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Spiders are actually pretty weak for their size though compared to most arthropods.
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Steve Jones
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I've just read all 7 issues of the Other and I really enjoyed all the issues. I thought the last issue was moving and very well done. I've read Spider-man for over 30 years and it read and felt like Spider-man to me all the way. Was it perfect? Of course not, no work is but it drew in me and kept my attention, I cared about what happened, I cared about the characters and importantly it has made me want to read the next issue.
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John Byrne
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Stan took his "proportionate strength of a spider" motif from a mistaken cross-reference to the strength of a spider's web, which, tho we crash thru them with the greatest of ease, apparently would be formidable indeed if the strands were, say, half an inch thick. (And if Halle Berry was my girlfriend, my world would be different, too.)Later, this became "the strength of 10 men", which sounds about right to me.
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Joe Zhang
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From m-w.com :
Main Entry: 3rape
Function: noun
1 : an act or instance of robbing or despoiling or carrying away a person by force
2 :
unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out
forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female
or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid
consent -- compare SEXUAL ASSAULT, STATUTORY RAPE
3 : an outrageous violation
"The Other" is about the rape of Spider-Man.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 10 December 2005 at 3:22pm
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Thomas Mets
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Peter Sanderson's latest column on the whole affair..
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Reading it now.
The Hembeck column may convince me that a Lee-Ditko tale I thought was
average (for them, not for anyone else) is even better, and I'll have
to look up his older columns. I may also steal Hembeck's panel by panel
analysis technique one day.
He began reading the storyline as a result of the controversy here, so he did go in looking for a great controversy.
The eye-gouging threats/ scenes have been around far longer than he
thinks. In comics, it was famously done in an EC comics cover (any one
here know which one?)
The Morlun- Spider-Man battle obviously had a big twist.
People are definitely talking about Spider-Man comics, although that's
irrelevant for Marvel. People are also buying them more because of the
crossover / controversy. Something he neglects to mention.
The sorrowful events which remind Spider-Man how dangerous the world is
(ie- the deaths of Captain Stacy, Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacy, and Frederick
Foswell) all happened more than 30 years ago, and showed how dangerous
the world is for people without superpowers. Spider-Man really hasn't
lost anything in a superhero battle (when Kraven buried him alive, that
was something an "ordinary" man could have done.) And it serves to
remind readers that whenever there's a cliffhanger with Spider-Man with
danger, he can still be hurt tremendously. I remember a few years back
an issue of Todd Mcfarlane's first penned Spider-Man arc (Torment)
ended with Spider-Man caught in an explosion. The next issue box asked
(and I paraphrased) "Will Spider-Man survive? Of course, but he's not
going to look that good." That got me more interested in the next issue
than the Will Spider-Man survive question (as the answer's just too
obvious.)
If the damage to Spider-Man is undone, he'll still have a very nasty memory, which can affect his performance in battles.
I'm not sure if DC can be faulted for taking pride in Identity Crisis's
glowing reviews, and great sales. The assumption that Earth 2 Superman
will succeed at replacing the current DCu with his world is also
jumping the gun.
We're not entirely sure how Spider-Man's going to be different at the
end of "The Other" so assuming he's going to keep a healing factor is
reaching (and if he does, will that really make him so radically above
the everyman. I thought it was established that he healed fast, and his
other powers, ie-wall-crawling, strike me as more radical.)
And I don't remember ever seeing Elvira on TV.
Edited by Thomas Mets on 10 December 2005 at 3:44pm
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Jason Fulton
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The Morlun- Spider-Man battle obviously had a great twist.
If by 'great', you meant 'horribly inappropriate for the character', I completely agree. Or maybe when you said 'Spider-Man', you meant 'character that isn't really Spider-Man'?
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Brian Tait
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I always enjoy reading Peter Sandersons column.
Well said.
I will ridw out "The Other" storyline, but I have a bad feeling that
any changes made to Spider-Man at the end of the story may not be ones
I like.
Last time I dropped the book was during the clone saga, this is worse because if I leave again, I may not be back.
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Thomas Mets
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If by 'great', you meant 'horribly inappropriate for the character', I
completely agree. Or maybe when you said 'Spider-Man', you meant
'character that isn't really Spider-Man'?
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"Great" may be the wrong word.
How bout noteworthy? Memorable? Controversial?
So shocking people have spent hours debating it on message boards?
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