"...but with E2 superman aka the golden age version walking around in Infinite Crisis I think Superman could also fit the definition of a legacy."

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Alex, the problem I see here is that E-2 Superman started out as E-1 Superman.

IIRC, once the Powers that Were created Earth-2, they needed an E-2 Superman.

Since the character had been running non stop since Action #1, they decided to "create" an E-2 Superman by going back to the beginnings of the strip and exploiting the differences~ thus, the E-2 Clark Kent worked at The Daily Star and his editor was George Taylor, just as it was when Siegel & Shuster were creating those early stories. That's why the E-2 Superman we see on the last page of IC #1 is sporting an earlier version of the 'S' shield, as well.

So the "original" Superman of E-2 didn't appear until Justice League #75 (where the two Supermen met for the first time), "created" well after his E-1 counterpart.

And I'll be damned if I know what the hell it means, or what I was originally getting at... oh yeah, I was trying to reinforce my idea that editorial stuff like this doesn't count as a "legacy" situation.

But then, you already knew we didn't agree... ;-)

Okay to expand on what I was trying to say Wonder Woman and Black Canary had their respective mothers as their legacy connection. The other heroes (not including Barry and Hal) with the exception of currently E2 Superman and Superboy had what would have been their legacy connections erased from existence so that they would not be legacy heroes.

Crisis love it or hate it was saying characters like Green Arrow were the first of their kind in the DCU and it was always thus, so that they are eliminated that legacy, and a complete reboot of the characters. They were similar to your Doom Patrol as I understand it, not a legacy a reboot of their existence.

"Alex, the problem I see here is that E-2 Superman started out as E-1 Superman.

IIRC, once the Powers that Were created Earth-2, they needed an E-2 Superman.

Since the character had been running non stop since Action #1, they decided to "create" an E-2 Superman by going back to the beginnings of the strip and exploiting the differences~ thus, the E-2 Clark Kent worked at The Daily Star and his editor was George Taylor, just as it was when Siegel & Shuster were creating those early stories. That's why the E-2 Superman we see on the last page of IC #1 is sporting an earlier version of the 'S' shield, as well.

So the "original" Superman of E-2 didn't appear until Justice League #75 (where the two Supermen met for the first time), "created" well after his E-1 counterpart.

And I'll be damned if I know what the hell it means, or what I was originally getting at... oh yeah, I was trying to reinforce my idea that editorial stuff like this doesn't count as a "legacy" situation.

But then, you already knew we didn't agree... ;-)"

Okay to expand on what I was trying to say Wonder Woman and Black Canary had their respective mothers as their legacy connection.

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I don't know if anything has changed, but ,post Crisis, Wonder Woman/Diana predates Wonder Woman/Hippolyta. The fact that WW/H's adventures take place in the past doesn't mean a thing and is a mere technicallity. Diana was the first Wonder Woman and Hippolyta replaced her daughter.

Unless, of course, something has changed after JB left the title that I am unaware of.

BTW when I mentioned "GJ trolls" I did not mean to lump in Alex at all. He's cool. 

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My stupidity comes up again. I thought Alex was a girl for some reason. D'oh.

I don't know if anything has changed, but ,post Crisis, Wonder Woman/Diana predates Wonder Woman/Hippolyta. The fact that WW/H's adventures take place in the past doesn't mean a thing and is a mere technicallity. Diana was the first Wonder Woman and Hippolyta replaced her daughter.

Unless, of course, something has changed after JB left the title that I am unaware of.

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Valid point.  However, earlier I think someone mentioned the pre-Crisis examples of characters like Green Lantern existing on a separate Earth, and therefore not being legacy because of that, and only being retconned into legacy after Crisis, so are we going to say only pre-Crisis or only post-Crisis or both?