John Hays was absolutely correct in the usage of MY definition of a legacy hero. As Mr. Byrne himself says in a subsequent post :  “(Worth noting that they have been retconned into "lecagy heroes" via CRISIS.) “ they are in fact currently legacy heroes who would fit the definition that I set forth.

They are part of the reason I asked about being “against select legacy heroes?” Byrne is against in continuity legacy heroes, not editorial legacy heroes such as Barry and Hal who while still fit the definition of “Legacy Heroes- Heroes who replace or take up a similar role using the name of a previous hero.”  Which I set forth when asked to provide a definition.

Posters might object to the definition used but it was accepted as the definition for the question I asked, and therefore was completely fair game for a respectfully asked follow up question for clarification on Byrne’s stance.

As another poster noted my spider girl example was outside of continuity a possible alternate future, again further evidence that I wasnt just talking about in continuity legacy heroes.

Although I'd agree that Spider-Girl is a legacy hero in the sense that in the M2 world, she picked up the mantle her father vacated upon losing his leg, for the purposes of the definition, Hal, Barry, et al were not originally intended to be legacy heroes.  They weren't for nearly 30 years.  That CRISIS retconned them to be legacy heroes doesn't mean that JB, or anyone not in the legacy hero camp, should suddenly be against or dislike the concept of a Hal GL or a Barry Flash.

And before anyone mentions GENERATIONS as JB working with legacy heroes, you'd have to be purposely missing the point to use that as evidence that he does, indeed, like them when it suits his purposes. GENERATIONS is basically an "Elseworlds" tale.  The entire premise of the GENERATIONS series of books is that the characters age in "real time" thus necessitating someone taking their place.  To bring it 'round to the original thrust of this thread, that is decidedly not what should happen in the MU and DCU proper.

Jim, I agree totally. I read Marvel comics first in 1973 and then started reading some DC. I can remember wishing they were more like my beloved Marvel comics. Only Jonah Hex and the Spectre felt more Marvel-like to my young eyes and of course, Kirby's Kamandi but then that was like nothing else before or since. Not to say there wasn't some good stuff but it wasn't Marvel!

Change and growth? I just love it.

I thought it through Jim, you may not like how I thought it through because it was intended to be a broad definition, but again I was asked to give a definition to the term I used. Therefore I got to define it as broadly or as narrowly as I see fit.

Again you are free to object that my definition isnt what should have been used but it is the definition that was used and was intended to be used.

Fair enough. A question for you, then. In this post-CRISIS environment, are Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Arrow, the Spectre, and all the other DC characters who predate the Silver Age "Legacy Heroes"?