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Pete Carrubba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2005 at 2:32am | IP Logged | 1
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Edited by Pete Carrubba on 27 August 2005 at 3:16am
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Pete Carrubba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2005 at 2:43am | IP Logged | 2
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I recall Herb Trimpe's artwork being used as the basis for a "View Master" reel presentation back in the late 70s, and although all the artwork was from the Marvel Comics run, no acknowledgement of Marvel or the artist was presented, only Toho Company, Ltd. I may have a copy of the reels stashed away somewhere, but I have no idea how I'd scan the images for all to see here.
http://www.boshzilla.com/gallery/zilla9.html
Edited by Pete Carrubba on 27 August 2005 at 5:19pm
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Brett C. Flechaus Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2005 at 3:16pm | IP Logged | 3
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I read most of the Godzilla run and all of the Shogun Warriors books and was not very impressed with either title. My main gripe was the art. Herb Trimpe was to my eyes, very dated at that point, considering the artistic quality of the rest of Marvel at that time: Byrne,Golden, Perez, Miller, JrJr etc. I also felt that Herb drew the "ugliest" faces on people this side of George Tuska. Of course that's not a huge handicap when you're drawing Godzilla ( or the Hulk ). I was very impressed, however, years later, when I read a Fantastic Four spinoff ( action hour or unplugged or unlimited ) where Herb was the artist and he drew it in a very contemporary style. ( Kind of an Image style ) It was as good or better than 75% of what Marvel was publishing at that time. ( granted, a poor art period ) but impressive none the less.
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David Whiteley Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2005 at 6:07pm | IP Logged | 4
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I'm glad you came around to liking Herb's art, but in my opinion him trying
to ape the Image style was a big mistake. It really made me sad to see him
have to attempt that approach to keep getting work.
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Brett C. Flechaus Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 August 2005 at 10:38pm | IP Logged | 5
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Yeah, I get what you're saying. I was more impressed that he could do it at all. I'm sure it was 100 percent an economic decision and not an artistic one. It may be a bitter pill, but there's the business side of it. It's a tough call but if the audience does not like your style, what can you do? Some fans seemed to dislike old pro's like Don Heck Herb Trimpe & Steve Ditko, while other guys like the Buscemas and Gil Kane hung in there & rode the industry a bit longer.
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Chad Carter Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 August 2005 at 11:27am | IP Logged | 6
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Don Heck bores the hell out of me, frankly, always has. Heck draws in a "DC comic" style from that era, stiff, lacking dynamism. I'm probably as unfair to Heck as people are to Sal Buscema, who should be considered in the same breath with many of his legendary contemporaries.
Don Perlin is almost a Heck duplicate but I liked Perlin's stuff on WEREWOLF BY NIGHT, particularly the last best arc in the series 34-37 which was a take on Richard Matheson's HELL HOUSE.
And by the way, what a great 70s Marvel series. Where the hell's the ESSENTIAL WEREWOLF BY NIGHT? And ESSENTIAL SHANG CHI MASTER OF KUNG FU? We've got IRON FIST and FRANKENSTEIN but not these two? Come on.
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Brian Lockhart Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 August 2005 at 12:16pm | IP Logged | 7
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Yeah Chad, I agree. Don't want to get too off track here, but I would love a Shang Chi book. Looking back on the 70s, while both companies had their share of stinkers, it really does seem to be a creative period for some interesting, non-superhero books (Warlord, Shang Chi, Godzilla, Tomb of Dracula, Jonah Hex).
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Brett C. Flechaus Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 August 2005 at 10:18pm | IP Logged | 8
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Isn't there a legal problem with the Fu Manchu character which prevents reprinting the great MOKF series?
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Pete Carrubba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 August 2005 at 1:36am | IP Logged | 9
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Brett C. Flechaus wrote:
]Isn't there a legal problem with the Fu Manchu character which prevents reprinting the great [Master of Kung-Fu] series? |
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I'm no lawyer, but I looked up Fu Manchu and it appears that some, if not all, of the books by Sax Rohmer, Fu Manchu's creator, are now in the public domain.
Whether the character is still owned by someone is not known to me, but the character of Tarzan is owned by Edgar Rice Burroughs, Inc., even though the novels are now in the public domain, so it seems feasible. Same goes for Conan, if I'm not mistaken.
Edited by Pete Carrubba on 29 August 2005 at 1:38am
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Dusty Abell Byrne Robotics Member
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i love trimpes work and godzilla gi joe and shogun warriors are all books of his that i really dug and collected. where are the essentials? favorite trimpe work was the hulk story featuring the abomination and the rhino that was used as a power record back in the mid 70's. i'd love to own a piece of that book.
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Dave Phelps Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 September 2005 at 7:24am | IP Logged | 11
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QUOTE:
i love trimpes work and godzilla gi joe and shogun warriors are all books of his that i really dug and collected. where are the essentials? |
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Pending resolution of licensing concerns I guess. I'd heard that Marvel's trying to get a "one time" license so they can reprint the Godzillas. Haven't heard anything about Shogun Warriors.
Downside to licensed properties, alas.
I wonder who has the comic license these days. Dark Horse, maybe? (Too bad the frequent use of MU characters most likely means they can't reprint them either.)
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Ian Evans Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 01 September 2005 at 9:54am | IP Logged | 12
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Herb Trimpe drew one of my favourite Marvel comics ever - Hulk #118, vs Namor...I haven't seen it for many years but still remember one particular sequence where Hulk pushes himself from a wall as Namor swims towards him and they collide with such force that parts of Atlantis are destroyed....great stuff
Edited by Ian Evans on 01 September 2005 at 2:39pm
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