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John Byrne
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Posted: 24 December 2021 at 10:47am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

For a moment I thought this might be an Uhura must relearn everything problem ala “The Changeling.”. Happy to be wrong!

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Oh, you can rest assured I would never come within hailing distance of referencing that appalling scene!!

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Posted: 24 December 2021 at 10:54am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

You do the best sentinels stories so feel free to scratch that itch at will.
It will be interesting to see how this one will behave lacking any current
guidance. Does he have awareness that the prior sentinels mission
failed and its instigator is dead? Did he even know about that prior
mission? Sentinels seem to have some autonomy to improvise within
the confines of their objectives but what would one do if there was no
such pre-programming? Are sentinels capable of any truly independent
actions / decisions? I like the x-men using the sentinels base as their
new hq so I hope whatever is coming doesn’t make that impossible.
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Jean Sterling Ajouissance
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Posted: 24 December 2021 at 12:07pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

@ JB  --

Please forgive the drift.

I've been engaged in an online disagreement with a gentleman pertaining to the nature and timeline of the whole "laced" plot device.

My understanding (which could be wrong) was that Jim Shooter, the then-Editor-In-Chief, had some sort of issues with the bones being pure adamantium  --  something about the white blood cells, regeneration, potential weight issues (?), etc. 

My understanding of the counterpoint was that Wolverine is a mutant (discounting the Sabertooth lineage), and as such he doesn't need to rely on white blood cells to work that healing magic.

I pointed out that the whole laced thing was a bit of a retcon.  Shooter wanted to change the pure adamantium bones to laced/augmented bones because he just wasn't a fan of the original intent.  The guy I'm having this discussion with is suggesting that, well... Byrne is incorrect.  Something along those lines, but not in an abrasive fashion.
My belief was that, more or less, from his inception up until Shooter's meddling, Logan's bones were solid adamantium.

Is this correct?  

We saw in #142 that his skeleton was, apparently, a solid construct of pure adamantium bones ---   but in the OHOTMU it falls back on the whole fused/laced device.
(Note that in the Handbook, Wolverine is wearing his brown costume, so his profile was clearly written after your departure from the book.)

I don't wanna argue just to argue, especially if I'm wrong.

I'm sorry if you're sick of rehashing this.  It does however touch upon your original intent, especially as pertains to his pulverized bones here in ELSEWHEN.

Is there a definitive true-or-false disconnect with Shooter, solid adamantium, laced adamantium, office politics, etc, etc?

Please and thank you.
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Posted: 24 December 2021 at 12:11pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

The laced bones were definitely a retcon, something brought in after I left. I suggest your friend take a look at how I drew Wolverine’s skeleton in DoFP.
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Posted: 24 December 2021 at 12:14pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Will do.
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Posted: 24 December 2021 at 1:15pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

JB: The Sentinels are, in my mind, much like the Daleks. They just have to keep showing up!

The challenge now is that I promised myself the previous Sentinel story wiped out any chance of "Days of Future Past".

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Things won't go *that* way, for sure, but that leaves plenty of other ways for things to go wrong for our merry band of mutants. Can't wait to see what the new year has in store for the X-Men, JB!


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Posted: 24 December 2021 at 3:51pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

US-style power point to charge from.

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Uhm... what else?

For the briefest moment, I have no idea why, I thought it was on Muir Island. No biggie.

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Posted: 24 December 2021 at 6:03pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

MEANWHILE?!?! Arrrrgghh! ;)


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Gordon Somers
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Posted: 24 December 2021 at 6:07pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Good gravy, that 4th panel is fantastic!!
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Posted: 27 December 2021 at 7:44am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

For some reason I find myself liking Gustav and the maid.  
I hope things go well for them.  
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Posted: 27 December 2021 at 7:55am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Doom comes to Manhattan...
And I think Gustav and the maid will be okay. They haven't disappointed Doom yet. 
Not yet. 
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John Byrne
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Posted: 27 December 2021 at 7:58am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

A point of possible interest: photo reference used for the interior corridor in the embassy, but not for the exterior shot.

I may have to move that dormer window. Looks a bit like Doom's bust is wearing a pointy hat!

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