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Tim O Neill
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Shaman!
My favorite member of Alpha Flight - so wonderful to see him.
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Andrew Bitner
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JB: Somehow, paying for six issues to get a “story” that could have been told in one (or less) doesn’t leave them feeling as if their pockets have been picked.
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This is one large reason why I buy far fewer comics now than I once did.
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Ryan Maxwell
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Michael!! Thank you, JB!
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Joe Smith
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SHAMAN!!
That last panel is SO CINEMATIC!!
I Am YELLING A LOT SINCE ALPHA SHOWED UP!
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Wallace Sellars
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What a way to start the week!
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Brian Miller
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And this is the first meeting of Alpha Flight and Xavier*. How cool that
he and Shaman seem as contemporaries who’ve known each other a
long time**.
* as far as we know
** as far as we know
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John Byrne
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I imagine that once initial contact had been made with Alpha Flight, Xavier would have taken a close interest in a group with two mutants.
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Wallace Sellars
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I wonder what that first Alpha Flight/X-Men encounter would look like drawn by today's John Byrne. I loved it then, and imagine I'd be completly blown away now.
(By the way, that story was my first issue of the new team.)
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Michael Arndt
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Delightful first page of the week.
Always a treat to see Shaman (my favorite AF member).
Enjoyed seeing Shaman reaching in his bag while Guardian is ready to protect Heather in that last panel.
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Steven Queen
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JB wrote:
Sad thing is, a lot of readers have been trained to expect this “decompressed” style. If they don’t get a full page of someone falling out of bed, they feel short changed.
Somehow, paying for six issues to get a “story” that could have been told in one (or less) doesn’t leave them feeling as if their pockets have been picked.
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I do wonder who's at fault. Many have complained that today's X-men feels like a soap opera. Is it possible that the comic book reader demographic has shifted, and there is less demand for action and more for navel gazing and the mundane---literally soap opera topics?
Edited by Steven Queen on 13 September 2021 at 10:45am
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Matt Hawes
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John Byrne wrote:
| ...The whole "decompression" mentality springs from lazy writing. After all, it's so much easier to fill pages if we must see EVERYTHING. If Joe Shmoe is sitting in his living room and decides he needs to take a quick jaunt down to City Hall, we must see him get out of his chair, cross to the door, go out the door, cross to his car, open the car door, get into the car (possibly fumbling with the keys), pull out of the driveway… |
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This makes me think of the directors of the notorious bad movies, "Manos: The Hand of Fate" and "Birdemic". Both have long, drawn-out driving scenes that are totally unnecessary, among the many other poor directing and editing choices.
Edited by Matt Hawes on 13 September 2021 at 10:59am
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John Byrne
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The audience has gotten older thru a combination of aging and the companies shifting to target that greying demographic. Each feeds the other. Factor in the influx of aging fans-turned-pros, who want to write and draw more “mature” (ie sophomoric) material, and we find the industry chopping off the traditional source new readers, kids. Stan Lee played up the soap opera elements, but he understood the place for Spider-Man to be moping about his latest romantic catastrophe was in the middle of a fight with Doc Ock, not while he shuffled around his kitchen making coffee.
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