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John Byrne
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Starting every sentence with "So" really irritates me! I'm more of a "Well..." guy.
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James Woodcock
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An example of how quite a few people near where I live
write on some of the local Facebook pages:
forgot the roofrack day i, mar mad sed it wow marr ill
gerrit in the back
I am not making this up.
Translation:
I forgot the roof rack didn't I. My mate said it will
not matter, I will get it in the back.
It was accompanied by a photo of a long ladder spread
across the back seat of a car, reaching out of both back
doors. That's not really important.
What is important is:
How much effort does it take to write the sentence that
was written, spelt like that?
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John Byrne
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Something I heard my British grandfather say as he uncovered the canary one morning:E's grond bit ol mon, inchee?* This is the strongest argument against phonetic spelling, of course. (Hm. My brain insists on spelling "phonetic" as "phoenetic". I wonder why...) __________________ * "He's a grand bit of old man, isn't he?"
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John Byrne
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What is important is: How much effort does it take to write the sentence that was written, spelt like that? Truth to tell, James, I wonder about that every time you use an "@".
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Robbie Moubert
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There was a fun little bit in an episode of 8 Simple Rules where Brigit (Kaley Cuoco) was challenged to stop saying "totally", "so" and "oh my God!".
"I can so do this! Oh no, I totally just said so! Oh my God!"
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James Woodcock
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Truth to tell, James, I wonder about that every time you use an "@".
Good point, but the answer in my case is none, because I went on my
phone one day & found my son had reprogrammed it so that whenever
I type and it puts &
Similarly, whenever I type at it puts @
I occasionally click the option that appears that lets me choose the
correct version, as in the sentences above, but more often than not, Im
typing too fast & am too lazy to go back & correct (like now)
Edited by James Woodcock on 01 June 2020 at 7:40am
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John Byrne
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Even after all these years, having lived in three different countries--separated by a common language, as Mark Twain put it--can still trip me up. Can't always remember which pronunciation goes where!(I doubt I will ever be able to say "France" as anything other that "Frahnce".)
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Darren Ashmore
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Slightly off topic but I live in Yorkshire, in a city called Sheffield and we have a unique turn of phrase, even for Yorkshire people, so much so that many year ago someone even wrote a book of Sheffield dialect called 'Sheffieldish'.
My favourite which I recall from school was ' Tin Tin Tin'
which translates as 'It isn't in the tin' (for non UK members we refer to stuff in cans (like baked beans) as tins (tin of beans, tin of coka cola, etc.))
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James Woodcock
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Darren, Im originally Fromm Huddersfield. I still use the Tint int in as
a lesson when trying to get people to speak Yorkshire.
Edited by James Woodcock on 01 June 2020 at 4:05pm
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Rebecca Jansen
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I call the Home channel the "Oh My God!" channel because every show seems to have people shrieking that phrase. My parents love that channel and unfortunately being deaf the volume goes up. Each time I still think 'Yes, okay, that is your God alright.'
Another overused expression is the "like something from a movie" one, meaning big visual Irwin Allen disaster type blockbuster scene, as though there were no other kinds of films, which sometimes seems to be the case.
My Yorkshire Grandad had a lot of expressions, but the main thing I remember was the plate of bread and butter that was mandatory on table! :^)
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Darren Ashmore
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James I live at the northern end of Sheffield so Hudders is about 15 minutes from my home, up the M1!
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JB said "Incidentally, I've long thought the world might be a better place if words were spelled phonetically. So many rules of spelling are completely arbitrary"
sometime through my high school years i found out about Unifon - a 40 character alphabet based on the principle of one letter per phoneme.
I LOVED IT, i even managed to become quite comfortable reading and writing it. i truly thought it would be great for everyone to learn, and use this "language" ... until ... i had a project in history class, i think, that involved the JFK/Johnson administration:
if someone that speaks with a strong Boston accent WROTE phonetically, a person with a strong Texas accent could READ the same, and sound the same as the Bostonian that WROTE it, but depending on the content it could be quite difficult to understand the intent/meaning. this, then, expanded to my thinking about other people of different language origins to which English would be their second language writing phonetically and their WRITTEN result when READ by another with a different frame of reference or background or dialect or euphemisms, could result with a totally UN-understandable message. whereas, when SPOKEN, the same message could be deciphered and understood much easier. then i stopped 'playing' with Unifon.
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