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Andrew Bitner
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It's insufficient to dislike, disagree, or even have a contrary opinion. One must *hate* what they do not love.
This reduction to an absurd and unworkable binary has to be among the saddest 'evolutions' of our language.
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Craig Earl
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| Posted: 31 May 2020 at 12:00am | IP Logged | 2
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'your' instead of 'you're'
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In speech, is there a difference here? Depending on
accent, I would say not - James Woodcock-------
Quite right, James. I was thinking of the written word here. I've received no end of emails and texts that start with 'hope your well'.
Unless the rest of the sentence is: 'is still providing you with fresh water' then that's not correct!
Edited by Craig Earl on 31 May 2020 at 12:01am
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Rodrigo castellanos
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As a non native English speaker (just protecting myself from probable grammar mistakes I'm likely to commit) this bothers me to no end.
Because it's a particular mistake that's not an exaggeration or a figure of speech, it actually means the exact opposite of what the people that misuse that term mean.
It shouldn't be that hard. But the term got co-opted as a sort of punctuation or used for emphasis when it should be a useful term otherwise.
(In Spanish it's the same, by the way. People use "literally" as "figuratively" all the time, it lost all meaning)
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Craig Earl
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| Posted: 31 May 2020 at 4:37am | IP Logged | 4
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The worrying thing about the misuse of 'literally' is how broadcasters and journalists seem to be using it just as much as Joe Public...
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Eric Jansen
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I think the only times I hear people use "literally," it's either facetious ("I literally am flying over the moon on this!") or as a stand-in for "really" ("I literally can't wait another minute for that movie to come out!"). It just shows a vocabulary lacking in a good variety of adverbs.
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James Woodcock
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Texting has killed the ability to spell, further eroded when out]r school
system decided spelling was not going to be an issue.
There are people on Facebook groups I am in that spell Black Country
dialect phonetically. It’s a nightmare trying to figure out what they are
actually trying to say.
They are very consistent with their bad spelling, so they must have
spent some amount of time learning how to spell these bad words.
We all make spelling mistakes, we all have, on occasion, probably used
the wrong version of a homophone, but some people seem to excel.
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John Byrne
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There are people on Facebook groups I am in that spell Black Country dialect phonetically. It’s a nightmare trying to figure out what they are actually trying to say.•• When I first came online, I encountered a poster in one of the chat rooms who spelled "about" as "aboot". Finally I asked him why, and he said he was Canadian, and that's how it's spelled up there. Of course, it isn't. Neither is it pronounced that way, except by people doing comic Canadian accents. (The real Canadian pronunciation is more like "aboat"--and they don't spell it that way, either!) Anyway, that clown was one of the first times I used the IGNORE function.
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John Byrne
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Incidentally, I've long thought the world might be a better place if words were spelled phonetically. So many rules of spelling are completely arbitrary.Enough, bough, slough. . . .
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John Byrne
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Once upon a time I was giving a radio interview, and chatting with the other guest, who was in another country, before we started. I happened to use the phrase "very unique", and he immediately corrected me, pointing out that "unique" is an absolute, and cannot be quantified.It had not occurred to me before, but I've not made the same mistake since!
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Brian Miller
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Enough, bough, slough. . .
*****
Draught has long been a favorite.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 31 May 2020 at 9:22am | IP Logged | 11
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& I think that is a good lessen for us all - some people may not realise
these things.
But when they make no effort, that’s when we are valid in our
frustrations.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 31 May 2020 at 9:25am | IP Logged | 12
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& I also realise that some might be annoyed by the & or @ that keep
popping up in my posts.
Apologies. This is because my son set that up in my iPhone & iPad. &
I’m sentimental about cute things that he does so I can’t bring myself to
change it back. I realise the irony of posting these in a thread about
annoying speech patterns.
Sorry everyone.
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