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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 February 2019 at 3:08pm | IP Logged | 1
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Warlock and Cypher were actually a decent, if odd, team. I'd forgotten about Warlock digging up Cypher's corpse. Maybe it was a metaphor for Marvel's treatment of dead characters in general.
I'm looking forward to the new six-issue limited series of X-Men vs Men-X, in which Cyclops and co encounter a mirror universe version of the team. including Tualmu, who can correctly pronounce and translate any spoken phrase, but only backwards.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 05 February 2019 at 3:24pm | IP Logged | 2
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I'm looking forward to the new six-issue limited series of X-Men vs Men-X, in which Cyclops and co encounter a mirror universe version of the team. including Tualmu, who can correctly pronounce and translate any spoken phrase, but only backwards. ••• Crap! Now I have to scrap half of my ELSEWHEN issues!!
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Bill Dowling Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 07 July 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2176
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Posted: 05 February 2019 at 4:54pm | IP Logged | 3
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“Re: Warlock. I liked him. I had no idea why he was on an Earth mutant team. See also: Longshot.”
Claremont just wanted to tell stories he wanted to tell and the X-books were the place he was allowed to tell stories.
There was a claim made in The New Mutants that Warlock’s mutant ability was the ability to not want to kill his father. Which apparently is something no one else in his species is capable of.
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 09 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1356
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Posted: 05 February 2019 at 5:30pm | IP Logged | 4
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My new mutant should be a male character that has the force field powers of Invisible Woman, without the invisibility.
His powers would instead have a shadow like effect, where he tends to blend into shadow, more fore cool effect than being hard to see.
Maybe called Darkmatter
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Rick Whiting Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 05 February 2019 at 11:14pm | IP Logged | 5
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Claremont just wanted to tell stories he wanted to tell and the X-books were the place he was allowed to tell stories.
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I'm a huge fan of Claremont's X-Men work, but in hindsight I think that Claremont should have been given a book like The Defenders to write so that he could take all of his ideas and characters that did not fit the X-Men and put them in the Defenders.
Edited by Rick Whiting on 05 February 2019 at 11:16pm
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 09 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1356
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Posted: 06 February 2019 at 1:50am | IP Logged | 6
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Claremont turned into a George Lucas thing to me. I loved everything up to a certain point and then it seemed he really got hung up on certain characters at the detriment of others. Suddenly they were the new hot shit and could do anything. So I started wishing someone else would take over.
But as soon as others took over I almost immediately wanted CC back.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 06 February 2019 at 9:11am | IP Logged | 7
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Claremont just wanted to tell stories he wanted to tell and the X-books were the place he was allowed to tell stories. •• In a nutshell! Before I got there, he and Dave had already wandered off into the realms of space opera and demons. In fact, I took as one of my (self-appointed) tasks to keep the book from running off onto those odd, non-mutant related sidings. Not that I was completely successful. Chris used the Annuals, over which I had no influence, to visit extra-dimensional barbarians, vampires and demons.
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 12694
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Posted: 06 February 2019 at 2:50pm | IP Logged | 8
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I'm not being facetious, but based on both sales and where the X-Men went in the comicbooks and later in the movies, Mr. Claremont told the stories that tons of people also wanted him to tell!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 06 February 2019 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | 9
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Yup. I’ve been saying for decades that I was obviously holding him back. Also not being facetious.
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 17698
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Posted: 06 February 2019 at 3:01pm | IP Logged | 10
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QUOTE:
I'm not being facetious, but based on both sales and where the X-Men went in the comicbooks and later in the movies, Mr. Claremont told the stories that tons of people also wanted him to tell! |
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That is something those of us with 100 or more posts have seen JB state again and again.
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 06 February 2019 at 3:02pm | IP Logged | 11
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D'oh! Late again.
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 06 February 2019 at 3:04pm | IP Logged | 12
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Yup. I’ve been saying for decades that I was obviously holding him back. Also not being facetious.
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I don't know, a lot of people had not jumped on the bandwagon yet, but I am sure the issues you were involved in got people talking. And they are still considered some of the most classic story lines Marvel ever put out.
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