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Greg Kirkman
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Yes, the “stealth marketing” received by HIDDEN YEARS is NOT something I would want to see repeated!!
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I have the sneaking suspicion that "Byrne draws the X-Men/Wolverine again!" would be hard to market stealthily!
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I was just sitting at the ol' drawing board, reviewing these pages one more time, and I realized something.

Many a time I have said these characters (except for Cyclops and X*) were not the "real" X-Men to me. That I took the assignment to pencil UNCANNY because if was SOME X-Men if not THE X-Men.

But as I look at these pages, I feel that something has changed, somewhere in the dark passageways of my mind. Scott, Jean, Hank, Bobby and Warren are the X-Men -- but now, so are these other guys!

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* Jean, under Chris' handling, did not feel like the real Jean, to me. And now we know why.......

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Glad you now feel that JB.

For some, myself included, these guys are the X-Men. I only read the early team's adventures much later and what's come since has rarely been of interest to me so this team is the real deal to me.
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When I started on HIDDEN YEARS I expected there would be much rejoicing in fandom. Byrne was back on the X-Men! And it was the REAL X-Men!

No such luck. And I realized that for most fans, like you, the All New, All Different X-Men are the REAL X-Men.

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I think ( and I've seen this in some articles and customers) That the original X-men failed. relegated to reprints before being cancelled.

Soon the "new" X-man had been around longer than the "old" X-Men! Which is why I set my sights on GS#1 to current for Colelcting back issues. (with 129 being my first back issue ever.) 
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 John Byrne wrote:
...I realized that for most fans, like you. the All New, All Different X-Men are the REAL X-Men...

I must confess, that is true to some extent.

Even though I was first exposed to the original X-Men via reprints... "X-Men" #3 in "Marvel's Greatest Superhero Battles (Fireside, 1978), and  "Marvel Treasury Edition #18: Astonishing Spider-Man" (1978), which reprinted "Marvel Team Up" #4 with the original X-Men, sans the superhero outfits... I do still feel MY X-Men were the team I first read in 'Uncanny X-Men" #122 (1979). Not coincidentally, that is also the issue that made JB my favorite artist! I enjoyed the original team, but the then-new team was exciting to me, and I loved the story and art more than any other comic I was reading during that period.

Not only do I agree that for those of us in my generation that grew up reading your X-Men comics, that team is to us the "real" team for us, I also think "Hidden Years" came out in an era where fans weren't as appreciative as maybe they should have been for such a series. Now, however, the fans -- especially older fans -- have seen the characters mishandled and so poorly treated for so long, this series will be welcomed by a sizable portion of the readership. And, yes, it being the "All-New" team will make a difference to many fans.

It certainly will get many who dropped Marvel in recent years to pick up a Marvel comic again.

I hope Marvel can work something out with you, JB. I also hope they keep whatever agreement you both might make, and take proper advantage to promote this series as the event it is.




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When I started on HIDDEN YEARS I expected there would be much rejoicing in fandom. Byrne was back on the X-Men! And it was the REAL X-Men!

No such luck. And I realized that for most fans, like you, the All New, All Different X-Men are the REAL X-Men.

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For me, they both are. Then again I read the late '60s Thomas/Adams/Palmer stories after reading the '70s and '80s stories. I just prefer to ignore most stories after things started to get "convoluted for the hell of it" with the introduction of Rachel Summers as an X-Man of the mainstream timeline. 

(I now realize I'm just repeating what Leigh DJ Hunt already said. Mea culpa.)



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I was introduced to the X-Men with the new team fighting the old team, albeit it robot doppelgangers, in issue #100. It wasn't until much later I discovered the history of the team(s). That being said, I always enjoyed the cameos of the originals during the Claremont/Byrne run. To me, they're all the X-Men and I'm delighted when JB works with any and all combinations of the characters.
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These guys feel real to me
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JB, I really enjoyed the way you drew the Blob in XMHY. I don't have anything
against the super heavyweight version, but your "old school" Fred Dukes was
fun to see.
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That's a great poster page. One of the things that makes JB stand out among other artists is his ability to have the characters act so natural just standing there.


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Quit bragging, Greno 
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