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Brian Miller
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Posted: 30 September 2018 at 7:47am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

It’s unhealthy how much I’m hoping this becomes an actual series. 
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I desire an update. Any update.  I considered using the words "require" and "need" but decided "desire" was sufficient, for now. I can always escalate from there ;)

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Posted: 03 October 2018 at 7:19pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

JB, are those hand sketches of Professor X's wheel chair, traces of a printout, or the actual printout? 
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No.
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Not exactly what I was looking for. I'll be more specific in the future. 
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That was a lighthearted joke about the way that last question was put to you. 

I know many of us check this page regularly, hoping for any new drawing, news, experiment with wheelchair, etc. We do it because we appreciate your work. A lot. 
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And I appreciate that.

But I have begged, pleaded, groveled and beseeched that people not phrase their questions as multiple choice. It's even in the Forum Decorum. And yet people still do it -- usually with guesses that are wrong.

Imagine how frustrating that is for me.

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John, looking back on auld artwork adversely affected Dorian Gray, while it inspired the Pre-Raphaelites.

While you were researching the various plot points and elements for this wonderful project, you must have come face-to-face with many aspects of your own process' of the period. 

In some ways, it must have been slightly akin to the 2000 film..."Frequency" (Dennis Quaid), in-so-far as you were party to a bit of apparent time-asynchronicity. 

Those process' won't just have included the artwork but also, plotting, pacing the story, panel layouts, where you thought the balloon placement ought to have gone, for example.

What I find exciting about this project, is that similarly to the film, the present effects the past and then the past effects the present.

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Sorry. I will try again. What is the source of the wheel chair view?

I ask because it looks as though there are light pencil lines on the images, but it was noted as being rendered earlier.


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Jeffrey, 3D packages vary -A LOT- there are various 'rendering' options for a model. Some of these emulate a black and white 'technical' drawing.

As with all renders, they are very dependant on the lighting and the model itself.

A deep trench in the model will often appear like a bold line

A shallow indent can appear very light in the render.

It is -likely- that what you are seeing are these shallower parts of the model.

Models can be given a skin or decal using an image, like a texture map and John -could- have drawn those details then to be mapped to the model.

However, it would likely be faster to have modeled it. JB is pretty dang handy with 3D models. 

I'm not answering for John, I just feel like maybe this might help your confusion.

If you are interested in modeling, 3DS MAX has a render as standard called 'Ink & Paint', which does this effect.

I'm fairly sure you can get the same effect in 'Sketch Up', which at one point, it seemed every Comic artist was using for their sets.


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A curious element has found its way into my pencils as I continue to tinker and tweak. I seem to be experiencing a kind of retrogression in my thinking processes, building pages and panels as I would have in 1980, but with 2018 sensibilities. It's as if my younger self was doing the layouts, and my current self the finished pencils.

The result, of course, is that what I am drawing looks a whole lot like it did in my head 38 years ago, but was then beyond my ability to achieve.

Odd, but somehow a distinct warming of the cockles!

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