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Richard Palmgren
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I have to say it's a treasure being able to see your creative process and learn all the ins and outs of it.
And as a side note: I don't think anyone draws Wolverine's claws better than you. As a teenager, I was so curious about the mechanism of his claws basically because the way you drew them made them seem so believable as "bionic implants" (versus "bone claws")
I only wish you'd been able to draw the scene you once described where Wolverine has to pop his claws out of the palms of his hands because they're bent at 90 degrees and the claw tubes don't line up from his forearms to his hands
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John Byrne
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Not too long ago, a story went ‘round the internet that I had “just” stopped doing thumbnails. Some were quick to pounce on this as the reason for the supposed decline in my work since (pick a date).Snag was, the report could only have come from someone who’d been snoozing whilst playing journalist, since what I’d actually said was that I’d stopped doing thumbnails before I got into the Biz. So, yes, I start with a pretty clear “snapshot” of the whole page in my head and “project” that onto the paper.
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Eric Ladd
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"Nightcrawler's plunging back neckline"
Ah-ha, I guess page 16 will be the one to ink differently then.
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John Byrne
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If it, and 17, hadn't already been tweaked.
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Tony Marin
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| Posted: 16 September 2018 at 8:29am | IP Logged | 5
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Ok, so I had a crack at the first page.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 16 September 2018 at 9:15am | IP Logged | 6
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What happened to Cyclops? Did he fall into a vat of tar?
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Tony Marin
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This is an alternate version with a solid black rendering of his costume I’ve always sort of liked better.
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Tony Marin
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@ John Byrne. Hey, I’m not George Perez.
Edited by Tony Marin on 16 September 2018 at 9:22am
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John Byrne
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Obviously.
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Eric Sofer
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| Posted: 16 September 2018 at 10:08am | IP Logged | 10
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Tony M. - you don't need to be George Perez. Besides, the job is already taken. That Tony Marin job looks better for you, honestly.
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John Byrne
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… you don't need to be George Perez…•• Tho he might try a little harder to be John Byrne. Start by imagining that the pencils are not suggestions, for instance.
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Rebecca Jansen
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As crappy as newsprint in comics was, especially in the late '70s and early '80s, I ended up preferring it to those baxter and mando papers where the colors would be so garish it made me ill. It took awhile for someone to adjust their coloring for those bright white papers, and some never did, reprints were never intended for it. Some just made every single thing super air-brushed shiny for no reason even to the point of ruining the readability.
Okay, so I'm thinking the retro coloring ideal would be the subdued newsprint Marvel 'look'; check out some of the Man-Things comics for the savage land. The further back you go the better the coloring usually. I do like the idea or skies being some kind of blue though, not changing to yellow or red for no reason from panel to panel. They can change for effect I suppose of a character becoming suddenly angry. I think the best colorists were Marie Severin and later Glynis Oliver (erstwhile Wein), but I did see Glynis make mistakes now and then (just finished reading Marvel: The Lost Generation), who knows what the time constraints may've been however.
I think I appreciate later Byrne with either Byrne inks or Al Milgrom... there are some astonishingly good moments in ink on these later and supposedly scorned comics that rate with the all-time greats like Toth or Caniff. Milgrom is a weirdo though as he could even ink Michael Golden really well where you might've thought that'd be a mismatch.
Edited by Rebecca Jansen on 16 September 2018 at 12:37pm
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