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Robert Bradley
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There are some very strong inkers who were chosen because they were just that - Joe Sinnott, Tom Palmer, Klaus Janson, John Romita and Wally Wood come to mind immediately - and while a "purist" fan of the penciller might not be happy, the finished product always looks good to the masses.
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Peter Martin
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Are the inks good? Yes. Clean, graceful, precise.
That said, Sinnott inks over Byrne pencils don't appeal to me personally, however, just because the end product is further away from the things in JB's style that I like.
So, fine inks, but I'm not a fan of this particular combination. Totally subjective of course.
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Charles Valderrama
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Joe Sinnott's inks are amazingly clean and bold. Loved these issues by JB and Sinnott.
-C!
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John Byrne
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It should be noted that the inks were done over VERY loose breakdowns. You also don't tell a race horse how to run!
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Steven Myers
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I loved the whole run starting with the Skrulls and Nova crossover. It isn't a favorite of most people, and even writer Marv Wolfman said he had planned something different which had to be changed because Nova got cancelled, and they made him add HERBIE midway through, but the art, the action, and the characters sucked me right in!
And the HERBIE arc is actually pretty clever.
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John Byrne
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The downside, of course, is that the story is kind of a big no-no -- using another title to finish an arc from a book that's been CANCELLED. I thought THE MAN CALLED NOVA was fun, but the majority of Marvel readers didn't agree, and there was a great risk of pulling down sales on FANTASTIC FOUR.
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Peter Hicks
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I collect silver age FF. I don't even want the early issues that Joe Sinnott did not ink. Chic Stone and Dick Ayers did not ink Kirby half as well as Joe. The FF 48-50 trilogy is legendary in many people's minds, but I wonder how many comic art fans realize that #48 was the start of Sinnott's full time work on the title? Prior to #48, Sinnott had inked only a couple of scattered issues.
Sinnott was wonderful glue that held together the future pencils of Buscema, Buckler, Perez, Pollard, Byrne, etc on FF. I love his inks.
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Tim O Neill
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I prefer JB inking his own work, but there are a few inkers whose style complimented the book - Joe Sinnot on some issues of FANTASTIC FOUR, Klaus Janson on WOLVERINE, and Tom Palmer on X-MEN HIDDEN YEARS. All great books that I initially wished JB had inked, yet I grew to really appreciate the artistry.
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David Bensette
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Keith Pollard.
Now THERE's a name that does not get the recognition it deserves!
LOVED his FF and Spider-Man stuff!
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Marc Cheek
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Not to get nitpicky Peter, but FF #44 was Sinnott's first issue as full-time inker. Prior to that he inked FF #5, which was a definite gem compared to some of the other inking jobs on those early issues. I believe Stan wanted Sinnott after FF #5, but other commitments prevented that.
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Peter Hicks
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Marc - Thanks for the correction! Now I have to buy all those really expensive issues with the first appearances of the Inhumans. I checked the credits on Grand Comics Database for FF inkers. I had no idea that Vince Colletta stopped by for a few issues in the early 40s to leave his unique mark (ugh) on Kirby's pencils.
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Keith Pollard.
Now THERE's a name that does not get the recognition it deserves!
He was penciling the book when I first started reading FF, with Joe Sinnott inking, and they were a great combination. I'm not sure how many people look on the "pinecone Thing" era with nostalgia, but that's one of my favorite runs.
There's a consistency to Joe Sinnott's inks that you get no matter who's penciling, whether it's Kirby, Romita, Perez, Byrne, or Pollard, but you don't mess with perfection. I'd almost call him the fifth member of the Fantastic Four for all of his contributions to that book over the years.
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