Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login
The John Byrne Forum
Byrne Robotics > The John Byrne Forum << Prev Page of 3
Topic: She-Hulk no more... (Topic Closed Topic Closed) Post ReplyPost New Topic
Author
Message
Matthew Wilkie
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 09 March 2011
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1139
Posted: 20 September 2016 at 12:23pm | IP Logged | 1  

Why sell one Hulk book, or two, when you can sell two main Hulk books and several spin-off ones, too?

***

When I was a kid we had three, four, even five Spider-Man books but aft least they were the same Spider-Man.

Or was this the beginning of the slippery slope?!
Back to Top profile | search
 
Tony Centofanti
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 16 August 2007
Location: United States
Posts: 212
Posted: 20 September 2016 at 4:02pm | IP Logged | 2  

Stan Lee's generation grew up reading real books...



*****

They also had interests outside of "nerd" culture, and tended to live lives that had included more than comic book experiences. 

 The dearth of life experience beyond "average middle-class nerd", is telling in the characterizations and narratives. There's a reason that King Kirby's rumbles felt genuine and authentic compared to more "true to life" artists. His experiences resonated through his pages.

I don't mean to say that one needs to be raised on the Lower East Side getting in gang fights to do action comics. More that many creators having a kind of unified nerd background has contributed to the breadth of content within the super hero genre shrinking.


-------------

A lapsed comic fan I often speak of here seems to think there's some conspiracy about all these spin-off characters and multiple incarnations. He really does think it is about that.

I suggested to him the true reason: the almighty dollar. 

************
I think this is a little of a little from column A, a little from column B. With a heaping helping of "it's creatively bankrupt, but F***ing easy, so let's do it."

For one, yes, absolutely, more toys. The comics account for chicken feed for Disney, but I'd hazard a shot in the dark that the licensed merchandise adds up to a King's ransom.

As far as conspiracy, it wouldn't be the first time that the claim of  Marvel/Disney moving the characters far off model so as to engage in copyright/trademark/legal shenanigans has been levied against them. There was a big stir in the 1980s over all the costume redesigns being an attempt to move the characters from the initial vision of them, to help circumvent possible claims made in lawsuits by the creative talents over the ownership of said characters. 

...it also could have been the Spider-Man redesign being very popular with the kids at the time, and an attempt to try something similar with the rest of the line. 

 Who knows? I'm not a conspiracy guy. I also wouldn't put much past Disney in regards to being aggressive, and at times underhanded, with IP law.







Back to Top profile | search
 
Brian Hague
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 November 2006
Posts: 8515
Posted: 20 September 2016 at 6:05pm | IP Logged | 3  

The past few incarnations of She-Hulk's title have been light-hearted and comedy oriented, and they haven't sold particularly well. Marvel has also done a number of similar "silly" books with Squirrel Girl, Ms. Marvel, and Hellcat. Someone may have asked why, with all of this new-found, apparently genuine intent towards shifting the comics-reading demographic to include young girls and women, Marvel isn't doing very many "serious" titles with their female characters. Redeeming the first Marvel character to go down that candy-colored path with her book back in the 80's may be seen by some there as a genuinely progressive thing to do.

As I would imagine is the almost-entirely inexplicable tendency to gender-neutralize every trademark in their catalog as well... If having the word "Man" in your title isn't going to determine the gender of the title character, as is the case with the upcoming Iron Man book well, then anything goes, I suppose... And Marvel apparently feels that's an important stride to make, or at least publicize...


Edited by Brian Hague on 20 September 2016 at 6:06pm
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Stephen Robinson
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 5835
Posted: 20 September 2016 at 9:26pm | IP Logged | 4  

I'd think that the success of BUFFY would show that a light-hearted *but* still
serious series could work. Weird.
Back to Top profile | search | www
 
Mike Norris
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 4274
Posted: 20 September 2016 at 9:42pm | IP Logged | 5  

I think they might be going to the distaff well once too often. Probably not before we see Sharon Carter:Captain America, though. 
Back to Top profile | search e-mail
 
Petter Myhr Ness
Byrne Robotics Member
Avatar

Joined: 02 July 2009
Location: Norway
Posts: 3906
Posted: 21 September 2016 at 9:58am | IP Logged | 6  

Be careful, Mike - they might just hear you.
Back to Top profile | search
 

Sorry, you can NOT post a reply.
This topic is closed.

<< Prev Page of 3
  Post ReplyPost New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

 Active Topics | Member List | Search | Help | Register | Login