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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 8369
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 2:26pm | IP Logged | 1
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This summer, an African American girl named Riri, is going to become Iron Man.
They are about to debut an all new Wasp.
Thor is now Jane Foster
Scott Lang is Ant-Man
Captain America is now Sam Wilson aka The Falcon
Amadeus Cho is the Incredible Hulk
There is about to not be a single character that is the actual character and not swapped out for another, from Avengers #4. Most have either been race or gender swapped.
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Trevor Smith Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 September 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 3542
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 2:29pm | IP Logged | 2
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As mentioned in another thread, why on Earth would you want the characters in the comics to bear any resemblance to the ones in the smash hit movies that the public are currently devouring? That's just CRAZY talk!
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Mark Haslett Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 6427
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 3:59pm | IP Logged | 3
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How is circulation going for these nuMarvel fanzines?
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Thom Price Byrne Robotics Member
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Joined: 29 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 7593
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 4:23pm | IP Logged | 4
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I wouldn't mind new versions of old characters if they really were new versions of old characters. I tend to think both Marvel and DC should do what DC did in the 50s -- periodically introduce fresh takes on previous characters. Unfortunately, DC also set the precedent for the hoarder mentality. These "new" characters aren't creative progress, they're a shell game.
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 12857
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 5:09pm | IP Logged | 5
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"Marvel NOW" refers to the best time fans should leave.
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Robert Cosgrove Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1710
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 5:20pm | IP Logged | 6
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In retrospect, Invasion of the Body Snatchers can be seen as an allegory for the fate of Marvel Comics.
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Robert Cosgrove Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1710
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 5:41pm | IP Logged | 7
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The upcoming Star Trek movie apparently portrays Mr. Sulu as gay, and features a scene with his husband. This "retro-gaying" of Sulu brought a dissent from a source many might not anticipate: George Takei. Per the Hollywood Reporter, Takei said, "I'm delighted there's a gay character. Unfortunately, it's a twisting of Gene's creation, to which he put in much thought. I think it's really unfortunate." When he first heard the news, Takei suggested they should make a new character gay. "I told him 'Be imaginative and create a character who has a history of being gay, rather than Sulu, who had been straight all this time, suddenly revealed as being closeted.'"
Takei's words: "be imaginative and create a character" should be tatooed on the hide of every Marvel editor. You want a character with a different religion, sexual orientation, gender, etc.? Good for you, create one. But no one at Marvel has the chops to create a character with anything approaching the popularity of those created all those years ago by Jack, Steve, Stan and company. So their characters must be bent to the "creative" purposes of the new crew.
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Anthony J Lombardi Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 January 2005 Location: United States Posts: 9410
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 5:55pm | IP Logged | 8
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Here is some more nonsense. A new title by Benis was announced, The Infamous Ironman. Which replaces International Ironman. It will feature Dr.Doom in the role of Ironman.
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Jason Larouse Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 May 2011 Posts: 515
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 5:58pm | IP Logged | 9
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If they wanted to pretend to be progressive they could have at least picked someone who hasn't already been replaced by a black person twice.
Edited by Jason Larouse on 08 July 2016 at 6:09pm
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Anthony J Lombardi Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 January 2005 Location: United States Posts: 9410
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 6:19pm | IP Logged | 10
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If they wanted to pretend to be progressive they could have at least picked someone who hasn't already been replaced by a black person twice. ~~~~~~~~~~ Twice?
I know about Jim Rhodes. Who was the second person? I'm not bothered by the girl. I am bothered by Dr.Doom being Ironman.
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Jason Larouse Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 6:26pm | IP Logged | 11
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Jim Rhodes on two separate occasions. For prolonged runs, not counting any sort of one off thing.
Doom being Iron Man is about as far out of character as Doom could possibly get.
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Mike Norris Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4274
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Posted: 08 July 2016 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | 12
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Yep. You hit the nail on the head Jason.
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