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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 8369
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Posted: 18 March 2016 at 8:48pm | IP Logged | 1
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To Brian Hague. I think the reason for loving JR's work is different from what your looking for in comic book art as well as having a different of what comic art is.
When I look at his work, or any artist for that matter, I'm not looking at there rendering ability, per se. I'm looking at how the artist tells the story. How does the he/she move my eye through the page, camera angle, composition, use of close ups, establishing shots, how the character seem physically act, use of light and dark, how much motion the characters seem to have, and dozens of other storytelling tricks. This in my mind, is the art form of comics. Otherwise, you're just making pretty pictures. JR uses all of these storytelling tricks like a master craftsman. It's my personal opinion that nobody working in comics today has better grasp of storytelling. He's in a catagory of all his lwn. Everybody else is playing catch up.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 19 March 2016 at 12:10am | IP Logged | 2
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I've been a JRjr fan since forever. Loved his early work in the 70s, grew with him in the 80s finding his voice with DD and have followed him into his creator owned work to this day. There's not many people who can get me to pick up a book with just their name attached, but he's one of them. The man can do no wrong in my book. I'm constantly amazed at how much he can convey through a single, seemingly simple panel. Simply put, I love, love, LOVE his work.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 19 March 2016 at 12:16am | IP Logged | 3
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James Howell wrote:
If I never see that Liefeld Captain America side pose again, it'll be too soon, but it keeps showing up on online "lists" as a reason to excoriate Liefeld. But have they bothered to see what Rob has done recently? |
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You mean something like this...?
Meh. Looks about the same as the stuff he was putting out 25 years ago.
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 July 2004 Location: United States Posts: 31185
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Posted: 19 March 2016 at 11:44am | IP Logged | 4
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Yep
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John Byrne
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Posted: 19 March 2016 at 11:50am | IP Logged | 5
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"Mercs for Money". As opposed to what?
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Benny Hasa Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 March 2016 at 1:16pm | IP Logged | 6
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JRJr. is my favorite artist period. As in EVER. His run on Spider-Man is pretty iconic and I would enjoy watching him draw chimps playing chess.
I wish he did commissions, as I've always wanted a Kingpin Vs. Spider-Man piece.
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Ronald Joseph Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 18 April 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1784
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Posted: 19 March 2016 at 1:53pm | IP Logged | 7
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So Walter Newell (a.k.a. Stingray) the famed oceanographer, is now a mercenary? That's so f'n raaaad!
Meh.
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 March 2016 at 6:26pm | IP Logged | 8
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For me, JRJr. is like Alex Ross. Incredible, faultless artist, but his choice of projects turns me away. The story in his run on the New52 Superman was disappointing.
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Matt Hawes Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 March 2016 at 6:39pm | IP Logged | 9
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John Romita, Jr. is an "artist's artist." Like Mike Mignola, and a number of other artists, it seems there are people who love their work or hate it, with few in-between. Generally-speaking, most who love JR JR's art (I include myself here) seem to be people with artistic ability. I'm not saying that people who aren't artists all hate his art, nor that all who can draw love it, but I notice that more artists enjoy his work than not.
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Brian Hague Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 14 November 2006 Posts: 8515
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Posted: 19 March 2016 at 8:20pm | IP Logged | 10
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Stephen Churay wrote: "To Brian Hague. I think the reason for loving JR's work is different from what your looking for in comic book art as well as having a different of what comic art is..."
Um, I think you mean Brad Hague, another longtime contributor to this forum and possibly a distant cousin of mine. (Hi, Brad!) I haven't written anything in this thread yet...
For the record, I like J.R. Jr. fine. He isn't a favorite, but there is no denying his ability to create a dynamic layout or tell an effective story. For myself, I prefer more tightly rendered work with a greater focus on lighting and character, but I recognize that's a personal preference and not a prerequisite for quality.
In Brad's defense, sometimes an artist or a performer just strikes someone the wrong way. There is a small number of professionals whose work I'd just as soon not see again, but my not liking that work doesn't mean they're awful artists or bad people or Republicans or anything... :-) Often I just don't like their particular style or choices in representing figures, lighting, or panel layout.
At the one and only San Diego Con I've ever attended, I went up to one such artist since his table was empty (cue internal snicker) and asked if he'd look at my portfolio. I was expecting something profoundly negative and instead received glowing encouragement and exceptional kindness. My internal bastard got taken on a good trip to the woodshed and hopefully I'm a little better for it. But I still don't buy the man's work because I still find his renderings of the human figure unpleasant to look at. I don't know if he's even still in the industry. I am a big fan of the man himself, however.
Edited by Brian Hague on 19 March 2016 at 8:22pm
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Brian Hague Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 19 March 2016 at 8:49pm | IP Logged | 11
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Ronald, oceanographic research costs serious money. It's not like these guys are swimmin' in it. It's not like their work impacts the Davy Jones Index. It's not like they have the cash to dive in and make a splash on the fashion scene or shell out a few hundred clams for a night on the town. It's all too easy to find oneself in over one's head, taking on water, and quickly going under. One bad month could sink you. I can see an oceanographer feeling the need to turbot-charge his income... :-)
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Ronald Joseph Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 18 April 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1784
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Posted: 20 March 2016 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | 12
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^ Thank you for the Sunday morning giggle!
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