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Lance Hill
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A good idea is a good idea, no matter where it originates. Harley Quinn was a good idea. Jimmy Olsen was a good idea. The big Cerebro room was a cool visual.
The Flash TV show has had some good ideas that I wouldn't mind seeing in the comics. (And the "Flash volume 1" trade paperback of the New 52 series has greatly increased in sales since the TV show started.)
If something works, and can be translated over in a way that makes sense, then there's little reason not to.
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Stephen Churay
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I remember watching the special features
for Captain America :The First Avenger.
There reasoning for not using the outfit
in the comics is that a comic book isn't a
movie and somethings just don't translate
to the real world. Whether you believe
that or not, why would comics not want to
take advantage of what comics can do. It's
my argument that by aligning with tv and
movies, you're not taking advantage of the
medium. Thought balloons, dramatic
foreshortining, costumes and uniforms that
may or may not work in film, are things
that comics can get away with easily. Why
stifle one medium to match another.
Understand, I don't agree with the
filmmakers mentality, but if that is what
they think, then why not use it to defeat
the argument.
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Olav Bakken
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"Thought balloons, dramatic foreshortining, costumes and uniforms that may or may not work in film, are things
that comics can get away with easily. Why stifle one medium to match another."
Agree. Comics have a lot more freedom in that regard, and don't have to worry about budgets either. Unless we are talking about a one-shot comic version of a movie, forcing the comic creators to make it look and feel like live action is to limit the possibilities the medium has to offer.
It would be a terrible idea to remove from comics some of the elements that attracted Hollywood to superhero comics in the first place, in an attempt to attract moviegoers who didn't read comics in the first place and give them something they are already familiar with.
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Jess Sowerby
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The marvel cartoons of 1966 (cap,iron man,thor etc) were pretty accurate adaptations of the comic stories that were written.Was like watching a comic book come to life. That's the sort of thing i'd rather watch rather than throwing out baby and bathwater at the same time.
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Rick Whiting
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I remember watching the special features
for Captain America :The First Avenger.
There reasoning for not using the outfit
in the comics is that a comic book isn't a
movie and somethings just don't translate
to the real world.
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And then Deadpool came out and proved them all wrong.
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John Byrne
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I remember watching the special featuresfor Captain America :The First Avenger.There reasoning for not using the outfitin the comics is that a comic book isn't amovie and somethings just don't translateto the real world.________________________ And then Deadpool came out and proved them all wrong. ••• I thought Spider-Man did that.
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Wallace Sellars
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It seems to me that the people behind CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE
FIRST AVENGER wanted to make the real Captain America uniform
look unworkable. Why else would they have used such a loose fitting
mask?
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Charles Valderrama
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The folks that make Marvel movies first and formost need to feed the EGOS.... that's WHY they'll always stray away from the source material.
SIN CITY worked because the creator was deeply involved and the director was able to put his ego aside to do a faithful adaptation.
Lightning in a bottle, as they say.
-C!
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Eric Jansen
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The Captain America outfit changes in every movie, getting closer and closer to the comic book version. And, of course, the closer it gets, the better it looks.
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Stephen Churay
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One of the things said about cinematic Cap, is that the
wings don't work. I would like to see if they could create
a cowl/helmet that had the wings raised off the helmet
without having separation. I don't think they've taken it
as close as they could, even following there own logic.
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Rick Whiting
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I thought Spider-Man did that.
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Heck, I'd say that the live action Japanese Spider-Man TV show costume (despite a couple of alterations)and the original Superman movie costume proved that. However, it seems that in the warped minds of some Hollywood folks only the uniforms of well known and popular superheroes work.
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Rick Whiting
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It seems to me that the people behind CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE
FIRST AVENGER wanted to make the real Captain America uniform
look unworkable. Why else would they have used such a loose fitting
mask?
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According to the director of that movie, that was indeed the case.
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