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Stephen Churay
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Posted: 21 February 2016 at 7:19pm | IP Logged | 1  

The number of titles are dropping from 52 to 38? Price is
dropping to $2.99? I love being right. Now, will they have
ads?
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I'd find that highly likely,Stephen. I'll also predict that within a few months of the reboot that isn't a reboot that you'll see more titles added to make it at least 50.
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Well, the hook I was unaware of is that
some core titles are going to twice a
month publishing. So, instead of paying
3.99 a month for a title, you're paying
5.98.
Maybe I'm missing something on the
business side of this.

I still think that the business model I've
mentioned numerous times of a 25 to 35
title line at 3.99 would get more readers
buying the line as opposed to a few books
would work. It would lower printing cost
and keep the line from being diluted with
writers that have no business writing for
a major company. The retailer would buy
more copies per issue because the reader
could buy everything for 150 dollars or
less. If they go back to ads, they can
increase profits even more by offsetting
publishing costs even more.
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I'm disappointed at the handling of
anthology titles as well. Running the same
story across six issues with a back up, no
longer makes it a anthology. It's just a
series of miniseries. That's why DC
Universe Presents failed. Nobody wanted to
read a Deadman story that took that long
to tell. If they had it wrapped up in
three with a couple of short stories and
slowly got all three stories in a
staggered telling of three issues each,
the book could have done better. Nobody
over there seems to grasp the business
side of this from the consumer
perspective.
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There's a lot of potential here.  The New 52 took a lot of lessons from the Ultimate Marvel books, with a lot of change for the sake of change.  I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll look at the animated DC Universe, especially the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited cartoons, and realize that they've got 80 years' worth of great characters to build on, and that a renewed focus on that will remind people why they loved DC in the first place.

And I'm a lot more inclined to gamble on first issues at $3 a pop than $4.  Hope they can hold the line at $2.99 for a good long time.
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ANDREW FARGOHope they can hold the line at $2.99 for a good long time.

I've never been crazy about the whole "reboot" thing Marvel and DC seem to do on a regular basis. I do agree with Andrew, however, and hope DC keeps the price down on the monthly books (while maintaining the same page count, etc.). I've always comic prices crossed a "rubicon" when the regular prices went beyond $ 2.25 per issue. That's when I started seeing the books really drop away from the NON direct market (like, for example, Stop and Shop here in CT, where many of the stores stocked some of the regular titles.)
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Willian, it was around the same time that
comics became non-returnable unless
damaged by shipping. At that point,
distribution collapsed outside the direct
market. The funny is, it's my
understanding that the returns led to the
direct sales market to begin with.
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it was around the same time that
comics became non-returnable unless
damaged by shipping.


The whole point of the Direct Market is that the comics are non-returnable, so that's a practice that goes back to the early '80s.
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Steven Churay: "It was around the same time that comics became non-returnable unless  damaged by shipping. At that point, distribution collapsed outside the direct market." 

IMO, the traditional distribution market began its slow collapse from the late 1960s through the late 1970s. During that time, the comic book only stores began to emerge (again, slowly, IMO). Phil Seuling and others went to DC and MARVEL with the idea of creating a non-returnable market, which, over time, became the focus for the publishers (for better or worse). It didn't mean the traditional markets completely disappeared, however; comics were still sold through bookstores (remember Waldenbooks and Borders, for example) and some other outlets, like Stop and Shop. 

For those people that shopped there, it at least put in front of them that comics still existed, and, if the pricing was right, those people may purchase an issue or two. Once the pricing got too high, though (like around $ 2.25, lets say), then those occasional shoppers began to drop off and those outlets stopped carrying the comics. 

 I have no scientific evidence to support any of this, of course; it's just my own opinion.

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It was slower than my choice of words,
would have you think. It did seem like an
all of the sudden thing for our area.
There's only two newsstand magazine
distributors for our area and they quick
carrying comics at about the same time.
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STEPHEN CHURAY: " It did seem like an all of the sudden thing for our area."

I guess because I live in Fairfield County CT, in that New York City "Zone of Influence", it seemed to take longer. We still had a number of "variety" type stores in the Ansonia / Derby / Shelton area (right near Space Travelers, the first "comic only" store I went to on a regular basis) that seemed to hold on through at least the late 1980s. 
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