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Kevin Stamper Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 4:05pm | IP Logged | 1
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Looks like the Seven Soldiers of Victory series are going to be a lot more dangerous and destructive than I thought.
Look here for Morrison's comments on Orion, etc.
http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=758 848
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Darren Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 22 April 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 6025
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 4:32pm | IP Logged | 2
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I hope that the New Gods aren't deconstructed under Morrisons tenure.
I'm getting a little bored of the whole "British" attack on Superheroes.
[edited to change "are" to "Aren't" because I didn't take enough care when posting initially!]
Edited by Darren Taylor on 20 March 2005 at 4:39pm
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Troy Nunis Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4598
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 4:36pm | IP Logged | 3
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Huh?
aren't those contradictory statements?
I hope this Brit attacks some superheroes/I'm tired of Brits attacking Superheroes?
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Darren Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 22 April 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 6025
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | 4
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Troy Nunis wrote:
Huh?
aren't those contradictory statements?
I hope this Brit attacks some superheroes/I'm tired of Brits attacking Superheroes?
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Oops...should proof read that! Note that I meant to say "AREN'T" not "are".
Thanks for the heads up Troy.
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Troy Nunis Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 4:41pm | IP Logged | 5
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ahhh . . much better -- and yes, i'm still hoping this whole 7 soliders thing is dropped out of continuity since none of it seems to fit -- or really, seems to be making any of the characters any more viable than they were before.
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David Schimmel Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 539
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 7:42pm | IP Logged | 6
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Not to sound surly or anything, BUT
If they do drop them out of continuity, this is not very different than the recent reboots of Doom Patrol or Demon.....although in the cases of these, they are reboots to pieces closer to the original.....
But still, if you defend one, you might have to defend the other as well. In my opinion, if we don't agree with the reboot, don't buy it. speak with thine pocketbook.
Hope I don't get flamed too hard here.
David
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Ronald Pegram Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 08 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 861
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 7:50pm | IP Logged | 7
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David Schimmel wrote:
Not to sound surly or anything, BUT
If they do drop them out of continuity, this is not very different than the recent reboots of Doom Patrol or Demon.....although in the cases of these, they are reboots to pieces closer to the original.....
But still, if you defend one, you might have to defend the other as well. In my opinion, if we don't agree with the reboot, don't buy it. speak with thine pocketbook.
Hope I don't get flamed too hard here.
David
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With all respect, the reboot of Doom Patrol is akin to making Pierce Brosnan the new James Bond. He's obviously not the guy from the Cold War but it's a gentle reboot to bring the same character into the present somehow.
Turning Orion into a beat-up boxer is more akin to having Dr. Doom reveal that he is a pissed off podiatrist.
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Eric Kleefeld Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 December 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4422
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 7:56pm | IP Logged | 8
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The great thing about DC is that continuity doesn't matter.
Writers aren't overly constrained by it and are free to do their real
job, telling fun stories that someone will like.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | 9
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this is not very different than the recent reboots of
Doom Patrol or Demon....
****
BLOOD OF THE DEMON is not a reboot.
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Troy Nunis Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 8:46pm | IP Logged | 10
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David Schimmel wrote:
Not to sound surly or anything, BUT
If they do drop them out of continuity, this is not very different than the recent reboots of Doom Patrol or Demon.....although in the cases of these, they are reboots to pieces closer to the original.....
But still, if you defend one, you might have to defend the other as well. In my opinion, if we don't agree with the reboot, don't buy it. speak with thine pocketbook.
Hope I don't get flamed too hard here.
David
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well, i made to points: 1.) they don't fit and 2.) they dont' make the properties more viable. I think Doom Patrol FITS, with the origin of Gar Logan being the only exception of ANY consequince, and as of yet that has put forth no problems.
What's more, I'm not complaining that these aren't good BECAUSE they are reboots, but because they aren't GOOD reboots. YOU don't have to say ALL reboots are either good or bad, rebooting is a TOOL, which can be used well, or Poorly. Doom Patrol IS more like the original concept and is an attempt to strip off additions to make it more maintream and approachable. As of yet, i can't see how hardly any of Morrison's reboots in any way represent ANY previous iteration of the characters or any particuarly reason these character are being called by the names that are applied to them, they should just be original characters that stand or fall on their own rather than appropriating other characters. And of course you vote with your dollars, but having done so, it's insulting to think you then have to go sit quietly in a corner opinionless however you spent your money -- these formus exist to express opinions.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | 11
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Eric Kleefeld wrote:
The great thing about DC is that continuity doesn't matter. Writers aren't overly constrained by it and are free to do their real job, telling fun stories that someone will like. |
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I don't agree with that at all. Is continuity less important at DC than at Marvel? Arguable. Does continuity not matter at all at DC? No. A simple perusal of the various TEEN TITANS books, LEGION titles, SUPERMAN and BATMAN titles along with FLASH and WONDER WOMAN (to name but a few) lead me to believe that continuity is hewed to just as closely as it is at Marvel. To say it's not, that it doesn't matter at all, is to not read too many titles by DC.
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Gregg Allinson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 March 2005 at 9:34pm | IP Logged | 12
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I've wanted to see Morrison do a New Gods series because I've felt he could bring a larger-than-life sensibility to the concept.
Orion the Boxer...well, let's just say that's not what I had in mind.
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