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Don Zomberg
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they require the passage of time
In comics, you handle this by saying there are things happening NOW, and there are things that happened BEFORE. No muss, no fuss.
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Stephen Robinson
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When comics was targeted at all-ages, the "shock" of Peter seeing Aunt May with another man would have been sufficiently conveyed through the couple holding hands or even kissing.
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Wallace Sellars
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When comics was targeted at all-ages, the "shock" of Peter seeing
Aunt May with another man would have been sufficiently conveyed
through the couple holding hands or even kissing.
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That's just what I was thinking, Stephen. Or Aunt May blushing...
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John Byrne
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When comics was targeted at all-ages, the "shock" of Peter seeing Aunt May with another man would have been sufficiently conveyed through the couple holding hands or even kissing.--- That's just what I was thinking, Stephen. Or Aunt May blushing... ••• The more "sophisticated" the fans and pros have declared themselves to be, the greater has been the demand to show everything, say everything, and leave nothing to the imagination. P. Craig Russell was right, decades ago, when he said Marvel's "mature" books should instead be labeled "sophomoric".
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Anthony J Lombardi
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I don't care for the term all ages. I take that to mean the books are going to be juvenile. It's my opinion that it should be a concession that comics in general should be suitable for everyone to read. Only if a book is specifically aimed at adults should it have a mature label on it.
There are certain characters that shouldn't be mature titles. Spider-Man is one of those titles Superman is another.
Batman and the Spectre are characters that I think could fall into both categories.
Spawn and the Punisher are mature categories.
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John Byrne
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I don't care for the term all ages. I take that to mean the books are going to be juvenile. It's my opinion that it should be a concession that comics in general should be suitable for everyone to read. Only if a book is specifically aimed at adults should it have a mature label on it. ••• Contradicting yourself.
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Anthony J Lombardi
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Contradicting yourself.~~~~~~~~~
No I didn't contradict myself. Perhaps I didn't convey it clearly enough but there isn't a contradiction. Assuming I didn't communicate it properly. I'll try to do better this time.
When I hear the term all ages. I tend to think the book is for little kids. Not teens or adults. That opinion is based upon the books I've seen that were labelled all ages. They looked like something for little kids.
That's why I don't like the term.
It is my opinion that comics in general should be readable by anyone. So there shouldn't be a need for an all ages tag.
I think if the book or characters are specifically targeting only a certain group should there be a need for a label. Than use a mature tag, little kids etc.
Edited by Anthony J Lombardi on 11 July 2015 at 2:35pm
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John Byrne
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It is my opinion that comics in general should be readable by anyone. So there shouldn't be a need for an all ages tag. ••• Another contradiction. Despite your personal dislike for the term, "All-Ages" means "readable by anyone." Misuse of the term by some should not mean its abandonment.
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Anthony J Lombardi
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Another contradiction. Despite your personal dislike for the term, "All-Ages" means "readable by anyone." Misuse of the term by some should not mean its abandonment.~~~~ I know what the term means. I'm not contradicting the meaning of the word. It is the misuse of the term by some that's my issue.
Because of this post I understand my error. I should have written it's the misuse of the term that bothers me. Thank you JB for helping me to clear it up.
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Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.
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Who is misusing the term? It's not complicated at all
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John Byrne
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It is the misuse of the term by some that's my issue.••• But you're one of the ones who are misusing it!! "I don't care for the term all ages. I take that to mean the books are going to be juvenile." ARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
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It is the misuse of the term by some that's my issue.••• But you're one of the ones who are misusing it!! "I don't care for the term all ages. I take that to mean the books are going to be juvenile." ARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!! ````````````` This is indeed very frustrating. Clearly there is a miscommunication going on here. I am not misusing the term. I know all age means exactly what the term implies. The book is intended for people of all ages. However as I have said here ~When I hear the term all ages. I tend to think the book is for little kids. Not teens or adults. That opinion is based upon the books I've seen that were labelled all ages. They looked like something for little kids.~ It is because of this I have come to associate the term all ages with these kinds of books.
Now I haven't seen EVERY book deemed all ages. So I'm not saying all of them are like the ones I saw. Nor am I saying that the term shouldn't be used just because of I am not fond of the it.
JB I except that this failure in communication is my fault. Clearly I am not being successful at conveying my thoughts on the matter properly.
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