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Lance Hill
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| Well, aside from that lovely little tidbit about young May banging Richard Parker, with Peter being her secret son--which was swept under the continuity rug |
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The misguided Trouble mini-series was never in continuity.
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--she still got it on with both Edwin Jarvis and
JJJ's old man, right? |
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Jonah's dad is the man May married over 100 issues ago.
I wasn't reading the Spider-Man title when Jarvis was around as a supporting cast member, so I cannot comment on what kind of relationship they had, if any.
What I can confirm is that since January 2008, Aunt May has only had one romantic partner, who she went on to marry. I don't think that qualifies as "banging everyone in sight".
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John Byrne
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The misguided Trouble mini-series was never in continuity.••• Officially, or your preference?
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Lance Hill
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| Posted: 10 July 2015 at 3:02pm | IP Logged | 3
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Trouble was a teen drama mini-series about characters named May, Mary, Richard and Ben (no surnames given).
At the time, the official line was:
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There have been a lot of half-rumors and mis-reported stories to the tune that this is really Aunt May, etc, but that's not confirmed because frankly, we don't know for sure. We know it's a great book.
This policy of not deciding about continuity leaves some enormous problems for our business partners. If you're a retailer, you can't really order Trouble like it's the origin of Wolverine, because we're not calling it the offical origin of Spider-Man, which means that a retailer could get stuck with returnable inventory. |
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Anthony J Lombardi
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Jonah's dad is the man May married over 100 issues ago.
I wasn't reading the Spider-Man title when Jarvis was around as a supporting cast member, so I cannot comment on what kind of relationship they had, if any.
What I can confirm is that since January 2008, Aunt May has only had one romantic partner, who she went on to marry. I don't think that qualifies as "banging everyone in sight".~~~~~~~~~~~ Is there anyone who could have possibly been interested in Aunt May's sex life? I don't know who wrote that little nugget. But I have to seriously question what's going on inside their head.
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Jason Larouse
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I don't know who wrote that little nugget. But I have to seriously question what's going on inside their head.
****
Mark Waid I believe!
He's at least an upgrade over Doc Ock. I could do without actually showing them in bed though.
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Stephen Robinson
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In the movie thread, Greg Kirkman reminded me of ASM #50, which I just reread. So much goes on in that one issue that would have lasted at least a *year* these days. Several issues of Peter Parker considering giving up Spider-Man before finally doing so, then several issues without Spider-Man and other heroes picking up the slack, then several issues of Peter Parker considering giving up his comfortable normal life before becoming Spider-Man again because someone died (someone always has to die).
It occurs to me that the entire SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN arc could have been *one* issue. The Doctor Octopus version of "This Man, This Monster" from FF 51.
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John Byrne
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It occurs to me that the entire SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN arc could have been *one* issue. The Doctor Octopus version of "This Man, This Monster" from FF 51.••• NOW you've done it!!
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Anthony J Lombardi
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I don't know who wrote that little nugget. But I have to seriously question what's going on inside their head.
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Mark Waid I believe! `````` That is disappointing. I use to like his stuff. I haven't read anything he has written in years. If this is what he is doing now. I don't think I'll be reading his stuff anytime soon.
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Kip Lewis
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I don't know who wrote that little nugget. But I have
to seriously question what's going on inside their
head.
****
Mark Waid I believe!
He's at least an upgrade over Doc Ock. I could do
without actually showing them in bed though.
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I wonder how much of this is a product of our times.
I mean, now a days, this kind of scene wouldn't raise
an eyebrow on prime-time TV.
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Kip Lewis
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Spider-man aging, Spider-man on the Avengers, and
probably some of the other things, mentioned over the
years about where Spider-man went off the rails, make
me wonder if this is all the pitfall of a shared
universe and that Spider-man would work best in his
own corner apart from the rest of Marvel.
Take the aging issue. By himself, you can get away
with a lack of aging, but with a shared universe, that
becomes harder. With adult characters, there can be
some aging without impacting things, and some of
Marvel's characters need that. Hank Pym for one. The
guy has had multiple identities; they require the
passage of time. But saying Peter is 16 when he is
Ant-man and when he is Yellowjacket is harder. Or take
the Thing, his story requires some passage of time.
No, not a lot, but he needs time. Also, constant
adding of new characters, new teams (2 generations of
X-men teams), or even things like the Avengers
constantly changing membership, make it harder to
ignore age on teenager.
They actually tried this in the Ultimate Universe.
Bendis said Peter would not age, but everything else
in the Ultimate Universe was aging and changing
radically. By the end, I he gave up saying Peter
wasn't aging.
Or take Spider-man on the Avengers. Most seem to say
that this doesn't work, because Spider-man is a lone
hero type. But there is a problem with that. Peter,
especially 16 year old Peter, is not a loner by
choice. From page one of his first issue, Peter is
trying to be part of the group. He wants to be a part
of the group. It's the group that doesn't accept
Peter. That works in a High School setting. Kids are
mean. But people like the Avengers are not HS kids.
They're adults, they know who Spider-man is: a hero.
Peter wants to be part of a group and the only reason
he wouldn't join the Avengers (especially since they
do pay their members a weekly stipend) is if they
wouldn't let him. That doesn't work as well when you
are talking about adults. (And don't say Peter
wouldn't join because he has too many obligations,
because all the members who have their own title have
too many obligations to actually join the Avengers.)
Back in the old days, the lines stayed fairly
independent of one another. They crossed over, they
referenced one another, but they stayed in their own
corners of the universe. That feel hasn't existed in
a long time. But probably starting with the advent of
Marvel Team-up and intensifying into todays' event
driven company wide crossovers have caused the lines
to blur so much, that you can't ignore the shared
universe implications any more.
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John Byrne
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I wonder how much of this is a product of our times. I mean, now a days, this kind of scene wouldn't raise an eyebrow on prime-time TV.•• If by "our times" you mean the last forty years or so, yes. That's about how long it's been since the people producing comics (and I include my younger self in this group) started forgetting that comics are NOT "prime-time TV."
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Anthony J Lombardi
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| Posted: 11 July 2015 at 8:09am | IP Logged | 12
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I don't know who wrote that little nugget. But I have
to seriously question what's going on inside their
head.
****
Mark Waid I believe!
He's at least an upgrade over Doc Ock. I could do
without actually showing them in bed though.
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I wonder how much of this is a product of our times.
I mean, now a days, this kind of scene wouldn't raise
an eyebrow on prime-time TV.``````````` Sex in comics or on prime time tv doesn't bother me. It's where and when and how those scenes are used that get me bothered.
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