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James Howell
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I like how Mr Nelson, seems to be fixated on my food analogy, instead of the point I'm making.
Maybe he's a Foodie or something...
My point is that if you're a fan of the Fantastic Four, and you're willing to see a film that changes almost EVERYTHING about the source material, including changing the core characters experiences and motivations, are you REALLY a fan of the FF?
Fox is advertising this film as a Fantastic Four film. Every fan doesn't read the Comic Book Dirt Sheets. The actual fans who like the original characters and the worlds they live in, won't get one.
They'll get something else, that will be called the "Fantastic Four".
Some fans will accept what they're given..
Others will walk out of the restaurant, and call FOX, "IDIOTS!"
Marvel/Disney is worried more about the former, than the latter.
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Kip Lewis
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My point is that if you're a fan of the
Fantastic Four, and you're willing to see
a film that changes almost EVERYTHING
about the source material, including
changing the core characters experiences
and motivations, are you REALLY a fan of
the FF?
..........
I say this as someone who hasn't seen
anything about this movie that interests
me. Yes.
The same way I can be a fan of Robert
Lundlum's Bourne series and a fan of the
Bourne movies even though they are about
as different from one another as this
movie FF seems to be didn't than the
comics. That is, characters had the
same name, organization, profession and
America. Practically everything else was
didn't; even the personalities of the
characters.
Still a fan of both. Of course it helps
that the movie itself doesn't mock the
book.
Edited by Kip Lewis on 15 October 2014 at 5:03pm
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James Howell
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"The same way I can be a fan of Robert
Lundlum's Bourne series and a fan of the
Bourne movies..."
A Book isn't a visual medium, it's more open to interpretation, visually, whereas a comic book is a visual medium, like film.
In comics, you actually SEE what the characters look like, how they interact, how they fight, etc. You see the world they live in.
You can enjoy a book, and the movie it's based on, on different levels, cause one is written, and the other is visual.
Comics and Film are more related, cause BOTH employ visual storytelling.
Edited by James Howell on 15 October 2014 at 6:08pm
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Sean Mulligan
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James Howell wrote:
| My point is that if you're a fan of the Fantastic Four, and you're willing to see a film that changes almost EVERYTHING about the source material, including changing the core characters experiences and motivations, are you REALLY a fan of the FF? |
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Yes. It's possible to like different incarnations of the same character/property and still be a fan.
I think the problem lies in your burger analogy. I think a better analogy would be song covers. I'm a Led Zeppelin fan. Dolly Parton does an excellent cover of "Stairway to Heaven" that I like just as much as the original. (I know, Dollywood wins again.) That doesn't mean I'm not a real fan of Zeppelin, just means I like two different versions of the same song.
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John Byrne
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Yes. It's possible to like different incarnations of the same character/property and still be a fan. ••• What flavor is that Kool-Aid?
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Michael Hogan
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What flavor is that Kool-Aid?
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Methinks it probably tastes like blood. ;)
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Sean Mulligan
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John Byrne wrote:
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Actually I'm having my evening cup of coffee with a delightful Pumpkin Pie Spice flavored creamer, why do ... Ohhhh, I see what you did there.
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Kip Lewis
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"The same way I can be a fan of Robert
Lundlum's Bourne series and a fan of the
Bourne movies..."
A Book isn't a visual medium, it's more open to
interpretation, visually, whereas a comic book is a
visual medium, like film.
In comics, you actually SEE what the characters look
like, how they interact, how they fight, etc. You see
the world they live in.
You can enjoy a book, and the movie it's based on, on
different levels, cause one is written, and the other
is visual.
Comics and Film are more related, cause BOTH are
visual storytelling.
And if the differences between the book and the movie
were only visual, you might have a point, but the
differences go far beyond that. The movie is nearly
Bourne Identity in name only; and each progressive
movie was less and less like the book with the same
name.
Jackson's LOTR movies look faithful compared to these
movies.
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James Howell
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We're on the internet, where EVERYTHING is LEGITIMATE, even when it's patently FALSE.
If every opinion, or works has equal value, then nothing has value.
Hmm, I wonder who benefits from fostering THAT kind of groupthink mindset in the populace?
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