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Eric Ladd
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The heavy stock you use sometimes would have to be put into a slicer of some kind. My Mysterio commission would be like tearing a phone book in half.
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Brennan Voboril
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I love the thing.
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Norman Hardy
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HA! Even JB's uninspired work looks awesome. You should see the stuff that I've walked away from. I wish it looked even half that good.
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Marc Foxx
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This is how I know that when people say that an artist "phoned it in" or uses some other form of mind reading supposition (suppository?) statement is full of crap. If you,
JB, hadn't said that you didn't care for the Green Goblin, there's no way that I could tell from looking at the results on the page.
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Stephen Robinson
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The Green Goblin, like the Hobgoblin, was originally
based somewhat around a mystery (who is he?) and later a
looming threat (He knows who Spider-Man is!). That can be
compelling when handled well* but it is not as
interesting to me as a character like Doctor Octopus.
*The problem, I think, with villains who know a hero's
identity and target him and his loved one's specifically
is that it personalizes the relationship too much.
For instance, if someone kidnapped your wife and kids,
you'd go after them, regardless of personal risk. There's
an entire genre of film based around the "ordinary man
pressed into an extraordinary situation." I enjoy but
that's something different from what I think the
superhero genre should be.
Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, Peter Parker... they could all
be at home watching the game while eating chips instead
of facing the latest threat to the Gotham, Metropolis, or
New York. The fact that they go out there when they don't
have to or when neither of us would is what makes them
HEROES.
Thus, that's my bias when a superhero film becomes what I
consider an entirely different genre.
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Geoffrey Langford
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Not a fan either.
Perhaps, JB, you could offer the incomplete piece as "layouts" to the commissioner and he could seek out another of his fan fav artists to finish it as a collaborative piece?
Be a shame to see all your hard work go to waste.
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Brad Brickley
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Well, I think it it looks marvelous. You may not be feeling it, but I am. I think the Goblin feels like he's jumping off the page and the menace in his eyes is solid.
I think all of Eric's montage commissions have been fantastic and I'm looking forward to you finishing this someday.
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Fabrice Renault
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Norman Osborn looks like it was drawn by Steve Ditko.
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Richard Stevens
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I completely agree about the Goblin and Doc Ock. Still, lots of good stuff in this piece, whether you were totally feeling it or not! We should all hope to have problematic work look this good.
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Peter Martin
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I wouldn't go so far as saying I dislike the Green Gobiln, but I preferred the Hobgoblin and do actively dislike that they brought the Green Goblin back from the dead. I can see where you're coming from and agree that Doctor Octopus is Spidey's top villain.
The commission looks good, but there's no point banging your head against a wall, especially if it's holding back other commissions that you actually want to work on.
Hallowe'en's not that far away. You never know, some Goblin mojo may come unbidden.
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Wallace Sellars
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Perhaps, JB, you could offer the incomplete piece as "layouts" to the
commissioner and he could seek out another of his fan fav artists to finish it
as a collaborative piece?
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Blasphemy!
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Jason Schulman
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I'm somewhat surprised that JB dislikes the Goblin so much considering the preeminent role that Norman Osborn plays in Spider-Man: Chapter One.
And yes, I know that that series was an experiment, a way to answer the question "what if Stan and Steve had planned everything way in advance." Even so, there might have been a way to answer that question without making Osborn the Big Baddy Behind (Almost) Everything.
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