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Kip Lewis
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Dwayne McDuffie tweaked the idea by stating in his FF run
that it wasn't every single time but there was a buffer
zone where you could make changes up to a certain point
without creating a divergent reality.   I don't remember if
he dealt with how much of a change can occur before it
causes a divergence.

I kind of prefer the old model because it is tradition.
Marvel used this model for decades, so that is what I
expect in a Marvel story.
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I kind of prefer the old model because it is tradition. Marvel used this model for decades, so that is what I expect in a Marvel story.

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There's no way I could ever consider to be "tradition" something introduced AFTER I started at Marvel!

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I think this sort of thing is endemic of the current crop of editors and creators not understanding the past or feeling that any established system, just by its existence, is holding them back from telling great stories.  I also get the feeling that anything magic or cosmic is simply beyond the comprehension of these guys: Who killed The Living Tribunal? Who shot the Watcher? When godlike beings start falling prey to crimes you'd expect to see on CSI, I start eye-rolling. < id="hc_extension_off">< id="hc_extension_highcontrast">< id="hc_extension_highcontrast_back">< id="hc_extension_grayscale">< id="hc_extension_grayscale_back">< id="hc_extension_invert">< id="hc_extension_invert_back">< id="hc_extension_invert_grayscale">< id="hc_extension_yellow_on_black">< id="hc_extension_yellow_on_black_back">
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I was chatting the other day with Terry Austin, and in our telephonic meanderings the notion of compartmentalization came up. The way superheroes start out as "specialists," but if they stick around long enough, the borders start to be erased.

The Batman I "met" in 1956 was still primarily a detective, but within a very short time he would be flying to alien worlds, traveling between dimensions, undergoing grotesque physical transformations -- in short, a whole catalog of story ideas that had traditionally belonged to Superman.

Even Spider-Man suffered from this. The character had been around fro about a dozen years when I joined Marvel, and by then this "street level" character was traveling thru time, flying to the Moon, journeying to the Savage Land, etc.

There are times when a bit of fudging on the exact parameters of a particular character or title's borders can be fun. As I showed when handling their book, there's no real reason the Fantastic Four can't find themselves up against a magical foe. And, indeed, such stories can serve as springboards for logical guest appearances and crossovers, as someone who IS a specialist in a given field can be called in to help.

Modern writers and editors seem unconcerned with such compartmentalization, and I think the characters are lessened because of it.

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Modern writers and editors seem unconcerned with such compartmentalization, and I think the characters are lessened because of it.
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Exhibit A: In the current storyline that finds the Watcher dead on the moon, the Punisher is the lead investigator.
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The Punisher? I`d suspect HIM of punishing The Watcher for standing by,doing nothing in times of catastrophe!
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In the current storyline that finds the Watcher dead on the moon, the Punisher is the lead investigator.

The Punisher? I`d suspect HIM of punishing The Watcher for standing by doing nothing in times of catastrophe!


At the risk of starting a thread drift, I have to ask: WHY are The Watcher's EYES so important?! Wouldn't his brain be more valuable? That's where all the memories and whatnot would be!

No?
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Even better, is this storyline WORTH any time trying to figure out?? LOL

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The Punisher is now a detective??
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The Punisher is now a detective??

It's Marvel...anyone can be anything depending on the whim of whoever is handling what. The inmates are running the asylum.
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The Punisher is now a detective??
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A detective on the moon. Trying to solve the murder of a cosmic being.
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