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Jean-Francois Joutel
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The worst modern recoloring of an old comic I've ever seen.
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Needs more lens flares.
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Ed Love
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There are exceptions Walt Simonson's THOR Omnibus was recolored.
They are currently rereleasing the run as a series of trades using the
same colors as the omnibus. Those are so well done, that if all
collections of older material could look that good, I'd change my
position.
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The recoloring I saw in the Thor trades I thought was horrible. They put in colored backgrounds that were previously white, completely opposite colors than before or even a star effect filter where a simple gradient or flat color background was before... missing the point the artist might have intentionally not drawn in backgrounds. I was going to pick them up because it's one of my favorite runs to re-read and passed on simply because of the coloring. I feel it's almost a text book example of the evils of computerized coloring.
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Pascal LISE
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No recoloring for reprints but color saturation should be adjusted accordingly with the use of better (non glossy!) paper and better printing.
So far, DC Comics did the best job with Jack Kirby's New Gods Omnibuses although I'm not too happy with the paper's thickness (print on the back of the page is showing through!) from the later Omnibus releases.
Edited by Pascal LISE on 07 February 2014 at 5:22pm
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Brad Krawchuk
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....missing the point the artist might have intentionally not drawn in backgrounds.
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Since you're talking about Simonson's Thor, I feel the need to say that he liked the recolouring job.
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Steven Legge
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I haven't seen the whole book, but I saw this image a while ago. The new colouring looks pretty nice imho. Although I liked the use of white and the contrast it created in that issue which is kind of lost in the new colouring.
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Jason Mark Hickok
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Pretty easy question for me to answer and that is no!
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Larry Gil
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Hey Jason , what issue is that Conan page from.
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Carmen Bernardo
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The only reason I could accept a recoloring of the original art would be if they could get as close to the original colors as possible with today's technologies. Otherwise, I could make an exception if the original artists are around to give their seal of approval for the project, and that only if they're owners of the story and characters they drew.
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Rick Shepherd
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BIG 'no', IMO - it'd be like taking a vintage musical, and having all the songs replaced with new recordings done by modern pop artists (with all the sound of a modern recording, all the typical mannerisms of contemporary pop singers, etc.). In other words, really jarringly anachronistic.
Or to use another example, imagine taking something like the original 1977 'Star Wars', and shoving in loads of additional CGI aliens and spaceships that clearly aren't of the same vintage as the original practical effects/costumes...
...oh, right - darn. But you see my point!
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Thomas Francis Tryon
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NO! A reprint should be just that, the original reprinted, warts and all. Historical accuracy should count for something, as well as a little respect for the English language. If a publisher wants to put out original artwork with the most up-to-date state-of-the-art coloring, that's fine with me, as long as they clearly identify it as "modernized re-issue' or something like that.
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Jason Czeskleba
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Larry Gil wrote:
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Conan the Barbarian #11. Here's a reprint of the same page from Marvel Treasury Edition #4, colored by Barry Smith himself:
I should note that Chronicles of Conan Volume 2 is by far the worst of Dark Horse's recolored Conan volumes. The other Smith-issue volumes are heavy handed, but not so appallingly incompetent.
Edited by Jason Czeskleba on 07 February 2014 at 8:30pm
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John Byrne
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"...if not for his steel spring quickness."Reminds me of a chapter in the old PHOEBE ZEITGEIST series. A private investigator named Dirk is hired to find the missing Phoebe. After several pages are devoted to introducing us to the character and establishing how tough he is, he heads out onto the street where... "...a passing flower vendor shoots him in the head. "Reacting with the speed and precision of a coiled spring, Dirk drops to the pavement, and DIES." Yes, the strip was a parody.
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