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Anthony J Lombardi
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No James he isn't crying. He is trying to think of a plan of attack.
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Joe Zhang
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I don't mean to sidetrack the discussion. What I mean to say is that superhero comics have veered far, far from what I and previous generations understand the genre to be. For what need are costumes if heroes just sit around and gripe at each other? I suppose for the remaining comic readers this represents an evolution or advancement of storytelling.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 25 April 2013 at 11:31pm
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Petter Myhr Ness
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The costumes are FUN! I held my first comic book in my hands before I could read properly, and the characters with their fantastic costumes and powers made me WANT to read properly.
Guess I was part of a lucky generation, because kids today certainly won't get that kind of stimulation from comics. The grown-up party poopers have ruined it.
This is why the trunks/no trunks debate about Superman is fundamentally wrong. He wears the trunks because it makes the costume look better! But DC has yielded that stand permanently, it seems.
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Robbie Parry
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Costumes are great!
Some people overthink things. I knew someone once (I've mentioned this before, apologies for repeating) who overanalyzed THUNDERBIRDS, asking how they'd have built Tracy Island in secret, how they funded the crafts, etc.
You simply accept some things on their own terms. Costumes are one such thing.
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James Howell
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This panel encapsulates the condition of comic book superheroes today...(note the more "realistic" looking Hawkeye in the background.)
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Monte Gruhlke
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What's going on with Spider-Man's left stump in that panel?
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Lars Johansson
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Superman in some incarnations had an explanation for his costume. I like that idea, that's what was in pre-crisis and in the movies. But when JB:s Superman came along they made a Superman costume more for fun. If it hadn't been as well written and carried out I would probably had disliked that idea. But I liked it because it was so good.
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Kip Lewis
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I wonder if the circus origin is part of the problem. In
the 30s and 40s, circuses were a major entertainment
venue. Today, they are one of many and could hardly be
called major anymore.
If superheroes came to be in this generation, artists
would not have looked the circus for costume designs.
The probably would be looking at athletes, skaters,
professional wrestling, and probably even martial arts
and military.
And today, male skaters sometimes wear street clothes to
perform, as do more and more wrestlers. Also many wear
uniforms of one color. (And black is very popular.) And
it seems like no one wears trunks of a different color
over pants, except for clown-like characters.
Another part of the problem, is comic book costumed were
designed to work in comics. The don't translated as well
on screen, even in CGI video games. As great as
Christopher Reeves looked in the Superman costume, it
still not as impressive as John Byrne's Superman on the
comic page. I look at Thor on screen, and he looks puny
next to Walt Simonson's Thor. (This has definitely
become more true as muscle definition on super-men has
hit a level of detail that only body paint on a steroid
born body builders can match. Actors will never match
that level of definition and to me, that is just as
important as the color.)
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John Byrne
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In that panel, altho badly beaten and tied to a chair, Spidey is still DANCING! Look! He's doing a KICK with his left foot.At least, his foot is clearly not on the floor, like the other one, so he must be doing SOMETHING with it!
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Joe Zhang
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Looks like his left foot is resting on the floor. Some kind of crazy Escher floor.
Edited by Joe Zhang on 26 April 2013 at 8:04am
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James Howell
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If people try to inject too much realism into something that's supposed to be fantasy at its' core, you take the fun out of it. Putting all the women in pants, having the heroes take off their masks, adorning them with all this extra gear, cause "it makes sense"...As a reader, or a creator, if the tropes of superheroes bother you that much, maybe you've outgrown the sub-genre..The micro-managing minutia drowns all the adventure and visceral enjoyment out of reading comics.
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Shawn Kane
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Hitch's art is appropriate for this thread because I feel like he's really taken alot of the fun out of superhero comics with his redesigns of classic costumes. Just using the Ultimates as an example, his realistic artwork may be pretty (to some eyes) but there's no energy or fun to it.
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