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James Howell
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I wonder, how many people, other than Thor and Odin, have lifted Mjolnir in the MU? Seems Odin's enchantment gets violated more often than Rob Liefeld's reputation....Thoughts on this...?
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Ray Brady
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Captain America is the only one I remember. I can't remember them ever establishing exactly how "worthy" is defined, but I'm sure I've missed a lot in the last couple of decades.
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Stephen Robinson
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I think even Captain America shouldn't be able to lift it. It should only be Thor. I did like that in the JL/Avengers crossover, Wonder Woman could lift it but I see her as DC's Thor -- a demigod of sorts.
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Andrew W. Farago
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Beta Ray Bill, Dargo (future Thor), Eric Masterson (substitute Thor/Thunderstrike), and I guess the Hulk managed it a current storyline (drawn by Walt Simonson, so it gets a pass, right?).
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Michael Hogan
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Cap did lift it in a story many years back, IIRC.
Edited by Michael Hogan on 10 April 2013 at 6:51pm
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Joe Smith
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I'm not sure the current Simonson drawn storyline is all it
seems.....there are macguffins aplenty that trip you to that idea.
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David Plunkert
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There was a corollary added to the "worthy" clause in the Avengers/JLA mini by Busiek/Perez.... Superman could lift it during a crisis but not casually after. I assume this covers Cap and a few others lifting it as well. Basically a worthy class that's one rung down. Not sure if this is still in affect.
Hulk? That's weird.
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Aaron Smith
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I don't think anybody should be able to lift it except Thor and those occasional substitute Thors (Beta Ray Bill, etc.)
I like the idea that Captain America can lift it, but maybe it's one of those ideas that should have been hinted at but never actually shown to really happen.
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David Plunkert
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I like the idea that Captain America can lift it, but maybe it's one of those ideas that should have been hinted at but never actually shown to really happen.
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I agree that it should have been left at a hint even if it was a cool one off moment.
It causes story problems if Thor and Cap are on the same Avengers team. It means Cap can have the power of Thor whenever he's separated from his hammer.
Further, it also starts breaking down the story conceit....if Thor is on a team why wouldn't each Avenger be tested for worthiness in a pinch if one other guy can do it? Something that doesn't beg an answer otherwise but kills the mystique when answered.
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Aaron Smith
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I think Cap lifting Mjolnir might be a moment best saved for an "imaginary story," rather than putting it within "real" continuity. It's a great What If? scenario, but, as David just said, it creates problems in the regular universe.
Years ago, I wrote a piece of fan-fiction which took place years in the future. Thor has long been gone (I hinted that he'd died somehow but didn't explain how), while Steve Rogers is older and retired from being Cap. When a huge threat occurs and other heroes are unable to defeat it, Cap goes down into an underground vault (owned by SHIELD, I think. I wrote the thing a long time ago and had forgotten about it until this thread reminded me), where he's had Thor's hammer stored for years (no, I don't know how they got it down there). He lifts it, thinking of the fact that he's always known he could use it, but has refused to do so unless it was absolutely necessary for one mortal man to wield such power.
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Peter Martin
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Beta Ray Bill should have been the (single) exception that proved the rule.
I agree that Cap lifting it would be better in an imaginary story. Or have Thor musing that Cap might be able to lift it -- but never have it actually put to the test!
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Marc Foxx
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I can't remember the whole story, but I think there was a human (reporter? tv cameraman?) who was in love with Sif and was manipulated by Loki who managed to lift the hammer using magical gauntlets? Red Norvell?
Edit to correct the spelling of his name and add the cover
Edited by Marc Foxx on 10 April 2013 at 9:06pm
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