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Andrew W. Farago
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Would this thread be 19 pages and counting if Mark Bagley had posted the exact same critiques online?
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Donald Miller
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Good Question.
There is the extended history of asshaterry from Larsen that comes into play here. Lending his action an automatic air of poking the bear.
I would still have exception with Bagley if he presented hid critique as the "right" way rather than approach it with "this is how I would have done it."
it is all about how you present a critique...and respect should come first that would even be true in an actual teacher student relationship.
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Jose Sarduy
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maybe just 15 pages because he's a better artist, then EL. lol
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James Howell
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Sure it would, Again, Larsen's not critiquing, he has a bone to pick with Byrne. We/re going round and round with this...
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Mark Haslett
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Andrew: Would this thread be 19 pages and counting if Mark Bagley had posted the exact same critiques online?
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There's a real human instinct to see self-important folks get their inflated self image punctured. I see that as a real ingredient in the "mix" that's kept this thread alive.
Ironically, I think Larsen is motivated by this too and, in trying to "stick it" to JB, sets himself up to look like an ass.
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Trevor Smith
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"Would this thread be 19 pages and counting if Mark Bagley
had posted the exact same critiques online?"
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I would guess that the answer is "yes", but a big part of
it would be Mr. Bagley's "tone", now wouldn't it?
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Brennan Voboril
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Andrew perhaps Erik needs to offer JB, and fandom, an apology. He certainly hasn't made many new fans with this childish vendetta.
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Eric Ladd
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I knew Mark Bagley before he worked at M and enjoyed calling him a friend after that. We have since grown apart since I'm so far away. The man I knew isn't capable of unprofessional behaviour.
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Andrew W. Farago
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Yeah, but would Erik's initial critique (not the later, indisputably taking a poke at JB ones) have come off as unprofessional if it had been from someone like Mark Bagley or Paul Ryan or Ron Lim or someone else who doesn't have a real online persona, and who didn't have some prior beef with JB?
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Jason Mark Hickok
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If I had to guess I would think not. It's not a complete apples to apples
since Larsen has a long history of baiting or trashing not just JB but
others work. I am not sure the same could be said for the others you
listed.
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Wallace Sellars
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I received an email from an ex Byrne fan that was pissed Byrne was rude to
him on here. He threatened me and my son if I didn't stop supporting Byrne's
work. He listed a bunch of personal info about my life, really scary stuff. It
was nuts
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I have mentioned before how I received a couple of crude emails labeling JB
as a racist, and strongly suggesting that it would be stupid of me to continue
to "support" someone like him. I guess that's part of the risk that goes along
with signing up and posting with your real name. Of course, it's nothing
compared to what Jodi has experienced.
[edited to change "I" to "it"...]
Edited by Wallace Sellars on 23 March 2013 at 5:34pm
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Jason Mark Hickok
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Yes, I have also received "hate" mail from JB detractors. People need
to find more to do with their time. I do not wish it on anyone!
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