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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 8369
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 12:28am | IP Logged | 1
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If this thread is deemed inappropriate, Please pull it.
Can somebody please tell me what's going on in DC's offices these days? Late last year saw Gail Simone get axed off of Batgirl, the highest selling comic title starring a solo female lead. After a lot of Internet chatter, DC announced that the NEW Batgirl writer would be...........Gail Simone!
Recently, DC decided to shake up the creative teams. Out of that came stories of creators discovering they were pulled off titles by looking at Preview solicits.
Now, it appears DC has decided that kids don't need a Superman title as SUPERMAN FAMILY ADVENTURES, there only all ages Superman title, gets cancelled. I understand that publishing is about money and that SFA was not selling great numbers compared to any of the "New 52" titles. But young readers have NO business reading current DC continuity. So, how do you hook the next generation of readers? This little title was perfect
Personally, this was the only DC title I was still picking up. Why? Because I could read it to my 3 yr. old. He LOVES Superman. When I would go to my LCS, I'd take him with me. Of course, he wants a comicbook like his Daddy. If the new issue of SFA was on the stands, that's what we grabbed and I read it to him before bed. Now I get the dubious distinction of explaining to him that Superman isn't for him anymore.
Corrected a misspelling in thread title~Matt
Edited by Matt Reed on 18 January 2013 at 8:31am
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Michael Todd Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 07 September 2009 Location: United States Posts: 4115
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 12:38am | IP Logged | 2
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You'll just have to do what I do with my daughter, only allow him to look at and be read the old stuff. To my daughter the 60's and 70's Superman is the only one she knows, same for all of the other DC and Marvel heroes as well.
Edited by Michael Todd on 18 January 2013 at 12:39am
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Robert White Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4560
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 1:33am | IP Logged | 3
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The comic industry abandoned kids and pre-teens years ago. Part of this has to do with the fact that kids were moving away from comics, slowly, even before the content started changing in the late 80's. Now, why would a kid want to read about Batman if he can play Arkham City or be mentored by him in DC Universe Online? Marvel and DC figure that only 30+ year old's care about their characters, and only they have the money to support the industry, I suppose. A lot of it is simply myopia. Jack Kirby stated several times that he was proud to create comics for intelligent 12 year old's. That mindset simply doesn't exist anymore.
Everyone wanted to write like Alan Moore and Frank Miller after Watchman and DKR, not understanding that it was neither creators intent that EVERY comic should read like that. This is the result of a long process. I'm somewhat hopeful that we might eventually see a return to all-age comics if digital comics catch on with kids.
Nobody at Marvel or DC really wants to admit that the bulk of their characters (outside of things like Vertigo that were intended to be adult) are inherently juvenile. Occasionally Brevoort will say as much, or some other honcho, but the proof is not in the pudding.
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Joe Hollon Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 08 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 13699
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 4:10am | IP Logged | 4
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That means once JOE KUBERT PRESENTS ends I'll be completely severed from DC.
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Petter Myhr Ness Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 5:27am | IP Logged | 5
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I can still remember the excitement of going to the local convenience store on Tuesdays to check out what new comic books had arrived. And then taking the selected titles home and reading them. Week in, week out - it never got old.
I don't read new Marvel or DC anymore. Maybe I stuck around for a bit too long, but that's OK.
What saddens me is that kids today are robbed of that weekly feeling of excitement. The books that entertained kids for generations are no longer for them.
A point that was made clear when I saw a Spider-Man book over here labelled "Comics for adults"!
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Carmen Bernardo Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 08 August 2006 Location: United States Posts: 3666
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 5:53am | IP Logged | 6
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I, for once, may not be so distressed that the mainstream comicbook industry in the United States may be headed for extinction. There'll always be the back issue bins and some intrepid soul self-publishing their own comics online (with print runs by request).
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Chuck Wells Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 1244
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 7:07am | IP Logged | 7
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I felt the same way when they axed Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam. That was one of the most fun uses that I had seen the publisher make out of the original Captain Marvel in many years, and artist Mike Norton's work on that title was really terrific. It was the only title that I have actually subscribed too - for myself - in decades.
I've done pull lists at shops, but that "kiddie" book came to my mailbox through Amazon. I understand that comic books have to hit a sweet spot in issues sold, but it's not like the publishers equally market their titles these days.
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Joe Hollon Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 7:32am | IP Logged | 8
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Anyone know how the sales compared to Tiny Titans? I with they'd stuck with Tiny Titans myself.
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 7:35am | IP Logged | 9
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I felt the same way when they axed Billy Batson and the Magic of Shazam. That was one of the most fun uses that I had seen the publisher make out of the original Captain Marvel in many years, and artist Mike Norton's work on that title was really terrific. --- Chuck, I started picking up the title when Norton started handling the art chores. It was a fun book, and I was disappointed when it came to an end.
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Jeremy Boyd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 8:15am | IP Logged | 10
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DC and Marvel are both responsible for this kind of tragic injury to pop culture.
Edited by Jeremy Boyd on 18 January 2013 at 11:57am
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Shawn Kane Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 8:28am | IP Logged | 11
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I'm down to very few DC titles. They seem to want to appeal to the late 90's Wildstorm crowd with their comics these days.
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Robbie Parry Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 January 2013 at 8:36am | IP Logged | 12
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I have never read this title, but reading about how Stephen reads to his child, well it makes you wonder about where the next generation of readers are going to come from.
I still buy comics, but I know that when I reach retirement age (still a little while away), I will not be able to afford Essential/Showcase/back issue titles, not on a state pension. I'm just one individual, other people's circumstances will be different, but the point I am making is that there may come a time when the older generation, who have bought comics for decades, won't be able to afford regular purchases of comics. I've actually reduced my comics bill by a third recently, due to finances.
When that happens, and we'll all reach 65 one day (here in the UK, the retirement age may one day reach 70), we may have less disposable income. Some might be wealthy, but some of us may have to reduce our entertainment budget. So, as Mr. Byrne and others have said here before, new blood is needed. The forty and fifty-year old guys who buy comics won't be around forever.
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