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John Byrne
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Posted: 16 January 2013 at 3:43pm | IP Logged | 1
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Hey, maybe the first "good" vampire was Jesus! He rose from the dead and compelled his followers to drink his blood and consume his flesh!
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Robert Bradley Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 January 2013 at 4:38pm | IP Logged | 2
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No, I think he was the first zombie.
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Ray Brady Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 January 2013 at 4:59pm | IP Logged | 3
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Are we counting Morbius? He was something like 1971, wasn't he?
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Laren Farmer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 January 2013 at 5:06pm | IP Logged | 4
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I saw an episode of Boris Karloff's Thriller last week that skirts the line a bit. It's played straight until a surprise at the end that some might view as veering too much into comedy...but still, it features an attractive and personable married couple who are quite likable...and also vampires.
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Ronald Joseph Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 January 2013 at 9:06pm | IP Logged | 5
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Are we counting Morbius? He was something like 1971, wasn't he?
We've had mentions of INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE, BUFFY, and Hannibal King. Why'd Morbius stand out?
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Aaron Smith Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 January 2013 at 9:50pm | IP Logged | 6
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No, I think he was the first zombie.
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I vote vampire when it comes to Jesus.
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Marc M. Woolman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 January 2013 at 1:27am | IP Logged | 7
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Wasn't Morbius "evil" when he first made the scene? When his disease was in remission he was "good" but when he was all vamped-up, wasn't he always evil?I do remember some 90's series where he decides to satisfy his needs only on criminals, a Punisher-esque type of deal, but that would be pretty late in the game compared to the other vampires mentioned.
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Robbie Parry Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 January 2013 at 1:47pm | IP Logged | 8
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I don't have the book to hand, but years ago I bought a paperback called THE RIVALS OF DRACULA, which featured a collection of short stories. In one of the stories, a vampire (unnamed, I think) was speaking to a psychiatrist about his condition and appeared to be filled with regret.
On the wider topic of vampires, it's amazing what you learn. I grew up thinking about how vampires couldn't walk around in the day, but I later read that that was a relatively recent "Hollywood invention".
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Rod Collins Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 January 2013 at 5:42pm | IP Logged | 9
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I think Murnau's film Nosferatu started the daylight myth. If you read Stoker's Dracula, there are several scenes with the Count walking around in broad daylight.
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Brian Hague Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 January 2013 at 6:14pm | IP Logged | 10
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I believe Morbius was "evil" in the sense that the Punisher was as well. Both were Spider-Man villains of the 70's whose bloodthirsty tendencies put them at odds with the wall-crawler. The characters themselves, however, saw themselves as essentially good and, being "interesting" mixed-morality types, starred in self-titled series in Marvel's black-and-white magazine line. They were conflicted and violent, yes, but still "heroic" enough to rate their own books. At the very least then, Morbius pre-dates Hannibal King. And the concept of the sympathetic vampire goes back at least as far as the first "turned" victim.
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Ray Brady Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 January 2013 at 7:24pm | IP Logged | 11
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"We've had mentions of INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE, BUFFY, and Hannibal King. Why'd Morbius stand out?"
The question was who was the first good vampire character. Morbius is first of those you mentioned, but does he count as a vampire?
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Stephen Bergstrom Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 17 January 2013 at 8:11pm | IP Logged | 12
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Morbius was/is a "living" vampire. His condition arose due to a scientific experiment gone wrong, as opposed to being bitten by a vampire. On those grounds, I'd say he wouldn't qualify.
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