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Eric Smearman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 10 November 2012 at 10:38pm | IP Logged | 1
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Wasn't Mike Grell considered a "superstar" of sorts during his LEGION and WARLORD days? I know he was a favorite of mine in those days and DC seemed to tout his work.
JL Garcia-Lopez, Jim Aparo, Curt Swan, Norm Breyfogle all seemed to be way underappreciated in my opinion.
Two guys I can think of off the top of my head that, IMHO, should be more popular than they are: Stuart Immonen and Tom Grummett. Big fan of their work!
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Andrew W. Farago Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 12:41am | IP Logged | 2
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What's the working definition of superstar artist here? Someone who'd make the Wizard Magazine Top Ten Artists list? Someone who can get fans to wait two hours to see him at a convention? Someone who can get any editor to return his calls? Someone who gives any book he draws an automatic sales boost?
Follow-up question--have there been any real superstar artists to come along since the formation of Image Comics? When I look at the really big sellers from Marvel and DC in the past decade, I think of the big event mini-series, and while the writers of those books get a ton of attention on their follow-up projects, that attention doesn't always follow the artist to his next project. Are companies marketing their artists differently now? Does it make more sense to hype someone like Geoff Johns or Mark Millar or Brian Bendis since they can write 30-40 comic books a year, while a hot artist might only draw 8-10?
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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 8:01am | IP Logged | 3
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Follow-up question--have there been any real superstar artists to come along since the formation of Image Comics?
====== I think so. Most of them came from the old Crossgen stable. Guys like Greg Land, Jimmy Cheung, Steve McNiven, IMO have obtained superstar status. I'd probably give DC's top guy, Ivan Reis, that status.
It's all perception. I think since the current perception by many that comics are a writers medium, where the artist is just an afterthought, the idea of the superstar artist has changed a bit.
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Andrew W. Farago Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | 4
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Would any of those artists be able to turn a property into a top ten book without the benefit of a "superstar" writer? If Greg Land were drawing Robin, or Jimmy Cheung drew Hawkman, would those be hits regardless of the writer?
It feels like the superstar artist used to come about a lot more organically. A publisher now will give someone a push by pairing them with a popular writer, giving them a popular character, and putting out a new #1 issue. I'm not sure we'll ever see someone take over a mostly-ignored book with issue #158 or #337, blow everyone away with his skills, and create a can't-miss book that way--on the Marvel/DC side of things, at least.
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Chuck Wells Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 1:03pm | IP Logged | 5
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I wasn't able to read very far into this thread before I had to bail. I'm not sure that some of you understood the question, because there are names being bandied about that shouldn't be debated as to whether or not they aren't "superstars".
Al Williamson, Ross Andru, P. Craig Russell, Mike Ploog and Jim Aparo may not be "all that" to some folks personal tastes, but they most definitely are and should be regarded as "superstars". There were several other established artists mentioned that have worked for many years, so perhaps certain industry changes and/or perceptions is more likely - in some fans minds - with their being perceived as less. I do respect the opinions of those in this discussion but as for me, I just don't know!
Out of every name tossed about, I would narrow this field down to two: Lee Weeks and Paul Pelletier. Both should be held in much higher regard than they've seemingly been accorded, but on the plus side, I have a huge stack of original Pelletier art pages - huge - with my showpiece being a double-page spread from World War Hulk. I have the published version and the original, rejected version (which I believe is superior to what actually saw print). These twin sets of pages have Wolverine, Namor, Spider-Man and War Machine becoming Hulked-out. Awesome!
Edited by Chuck Wells on 11 November 2012 at 1:05pm
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Thomas Moudry Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | 6
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Eric,
Mike Grell certainly seemed to be a superstar because of his work on Green Lantern/Green Arrow and Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes. I would say Warlord cemented his status, and Green Arrow: The Longbow Hunters was a fairly major event at the time.
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Thomas Moudry Byrne Robotics Member
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Grell's Starslayer and Jon Sable were good, too, but not big, big hits.
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Sergio Saavedra Byrne Robotics Member
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Sara Pichelli has been my great discovery of the year. Her work for Ultimate Comics Spider-Man and for Spider-Men is the art I've enjoyed most this year.
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Eric Smearman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 4:04pm | IP Logged | 9
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I know Mike Norton's been around for a few years now, but I'm really enjoying his current work on REVIVAL and IT GIRL & THE ATOMICS.
Even before WALKING DEAD I loved Charlie Adlard's stuff. I find WD co-creator Tony Moore's art to be very appealing as well.
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Armindo Macieira Byrne Robotics Member
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Alan Davis by far for me...
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 11 November 2012 at 5:14pm | IP Logged | 11
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Alan Davis by far for me... --- Alan Davis isn't a comic book superstar?!?
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Terry Thielen Byrne Robotics Member
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I can't believe I didn't think of it before, but I absolutely love Timothy Truman. Grimjack and Jonah Hex are stand-outs, but I also love Scout. A fantastic artist and a great writer. He should be more well-known than he is at the very least.
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