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Greg Woronchak
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Just make sure it's one WORTH throwing!
Well said. I think that a double page spread is one of the unique tools of comics that many creative folk (I'd blame artists, but I'm guessing writers call for them nowadays considering the detailed scripts I've seen) simply don't know when or how to use. I get the feeling that because of a given issue's poor pacing, splashes and doubles are needed to fill up the 20 something pages.
It seems to me that there was a heck of a lot more story crammed into books when I was younger, and double page splashes would not only disrupt the 'flow', but use up valuable space!
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Ivan Black
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I second that. David, what's that Kirby spread? Simply masterful! Looking at that and comparing it to today's comic art - there is no comparison.
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David Plunkert
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I second that. David, what's that Kirby spread? Simply masterful! Looking at that and comparing it to today's comic art - there is no comparison.
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Devil Dinosaur #4
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John Byrne
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(I'd blame artists, but I'm guessing writers call for them nowadays considering the detailed scripts I've seen
Yes, I would be willing to bet that Nightwing spread was written full script.
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Vinny Valenti
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I agree that "impact" is important. I don't think anybody would argue that the panel where Superman meets Spider-Man should be anything less than a DPS, for instance.
Though I suppose if it were single-page instead, it would have cost JB less to own it!
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John Byrne
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I agree that "impact" is important. I don't think anybody would argue that the panel where Superman meets Spider-Man should be anything less than a DPS, for instance. It's worth noting that the original SUPERMAN vs SPIDER-MAN is pretty much all "big pictures", as befitted the significance of the event.
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Brennan Voboril
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What is the Kirby spread from?
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First one is from Devil Dinosaur and the second is from the Eternals.
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Ronald Joseph
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Seeing as comic books are as much a visual medium as they are a literary one, I'm going to (more often than not) side with the use of double page spreads simply because sometimes an artist just needs to shine; let them spread their wings and blow a reader out of the water.
Having said that, I think the Nightwing double page spread does just that. Even at its diminished size here in the forum, it's an amazing piece to look at. I wouldn't consider it a waste of a double page spread. None of the double page spreads in TRIO were, either.
I think a lot of it comes down to the artist tackling the task.
Three by Alan Davis...
This is a double page spread from the Nu52 Hawk & Dove #1. The top was done by Rob Liefeld. The bottom was done by a different artist. I consider Liefeld's to be a waste of space.
The image (no pun intended) on the bottom much better utilizes both pages.
Artists need to shine just as much as writers. Every now and again, let them!
...edited for grammar...
Edited by Ronald Joseph on 23 October 2012 at 11:33am
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Larry Lawrence
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Remember the DC Warlord comic? Usually great, but the routine use of double page spreads became... routine.
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John Byrne
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Artists need to shine just as much as writers. What a pity Kirby didn't get to shine in those first 100 issues of FF!
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Caleb M. Edmond
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Geez! Been collecting over thirty-five years and hadn't even realized that double page spreads originated looooooong ago. (It's probably a testament to how it was 'done right' when some people wouldn't even realize what it was and was more caught up in the 'spectacle' of the image itself. Exs: X-men issues 137 & 142).
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Marc M. Woolman
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Those Alan Davis spreads, wow! That guy's art is just amazing!
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